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[stewey]

Why dont you hire some bigger and better wrestlers?
There's plenty out there.

[Saz]

Because usually they are sh*t, clumsy and dangerous or they ask for too much money for what they bring to the table.

Plus the audience accept the skinny guys and support them too, because they are immediate underdogs, so if the paying punter is still paying to see them, then there is nothing wrong with them wrestling.

Like I said, they have been told and bigger guys can come to the gym and take their place pretty quickly, so it is up to them if they want to wrestle in the future.

But I am not compromising quality for some bulky lug who can't wrestle for toffee.

[stewey]

But surely you saying that they can even be on the shows before they have worked hard to get a look makes them think that there is nothing wrong and they dont see the need to change things.
There are plenty of big guys in this country that arent clumsy oafs. Bringing them in might make your product look more credible and bring in even more fans. And thats what they bring to the table, along with their wrestling skills, is a credible look to the average punter. You cant put a price on that if you want to grow as a company.

[Saz]

Originally Posted by stewey But surely you saying that they can even be on the shows before they have worked hard to get a look makes them think that there is nothing wrong and they dont see the need to change things. There are plenty of big guys in this country that arent clumsy oafs. Bringing them in might make your product look more credible and bring in even more fans. And thats what they bring to the table, along with their wrestling skills, is a credible look to the average punter. You cant put a price on that if you want to grow as a company.

Lighter wrestlers can do more high flying moves than the heavier ones and bring something different to the show.

Grow for who though? An internet audience or people who actually turn up and pay their money?

Though I agree they are small to wrestle, they pay their money into the company as part of their wrestling training and have put the time in. Yeah, it's easy to do so, but when you are juggling a companies money you have to make hard choices.

It's so easy for you sitting behind your keyboard to say, "just bring in a big guy", anyone any good will want anything up to £200 as appearance fees, will usually try to ruin the locker room by playing politics and generally try to throw their weight around.

I have to run a business and sometimes it means that principles go out of the window to make money.

KSW do family shows, so as far as bringing the audience in goes, if I bring more kids in the better.

I have never run KSW (yes, me jayfunk) shows to become the next big thing in British wrestling, the money is in fact in the training of students, KSW is the arm that allows those students to become better wrestlers and if they want bigger and better things then that is up to them like people like Spud and Jack Storm did.

What I want to do is put on quality shows with quality wrestlers who I know have been trained well and it's worked, we pack out most of our shows with families who want to enjoy that style of wrestling.

Ironically, the smaller guys tend to shift more merchandise than the bigger guys, so while they are making the company money, they will not go anywhere.

It really does frustrate me with the internet that people all seem to know how to run wrestling shows and what it is all about, but no one ever takes into consideration that someone has to pay for the show initially to work before the company becomes self sufficient. Advertisements need making, as does merchandise and someone has to pay for that and take the risk that you could lose money on one decision.

Every trainee I place in a show is a risk, a risk that they will be awful, but because they train with KSW, they have the right to be tried out and learn the hard way, which is in front of the audience. I don't like it, but everyone has to cut their teeth.

As I said before, I have spoken to all of the wrestlers about going to the gym, some have taken note of it and regularly attend, some haven't and that is their choice as there is only a certain amount of times I will tell them.

KSW's roots have always been in training wrestlers and the revenue is slowly increasing month by month.

[stewey]

So by what you're saying KSW shows should infact be labelled trainee shows?

Guys like Carl Mizery, Ligero, Bubblegum, Joey Hayes, Aviv Mayaan, Martin Kirby, Spud, Luke Phoenix, Pac are all cruiserweights who can do flying stuff and they all look good and are in shape becuase they put the time in away from training and shows, so they look more professional to the average person. I'm not even talking about internet fans.
If they can do it, then others have no excuse other than, "i can't be bothered" or "why do i need to i'm already on shows". They shouldnt be put on shows if they have that attitude and it shows a total lack of wanting to better themselves.
Working hard at training is one thing, but their reward is that they get trained to be wrestlers which they do, everything else they should work extra for with only the ones that work the hardest getting the rewards. Then the ones that don't wonder why they arent getting anywhere and eventually they get the message, or leave and open up their own promotion/school and generally fade into nothing.

You've said it yourself in other posts that you think the UK scene isnt very good and one of the main reasons for that is that people dont act like professionals and take pride in their appearences.

Have you even looked into getting better shape guys in, either cruiser or heavyweight? I doubt any of them cost anywhere near £200.

[Jayfunk]

Saz are you booker or owner of KSW?

[Jayfunk]

Originally Posted by The Wrestling Phoenix Saz are you booker or owner of KSW?

I have never run KSW (yes, me jayfunk) shows

boy i was only asking a simple question no need to get sh*ty about it, my comments have been constructive on this thread

[Al Stevens]

Originally Posted by The Wrestling Phoenix boy i was only asking a simple question no need to get sh*ty about it, my comments have been constructive on this thread

Actually I thought he answered it in a respectful manner, also putting your name in brackets was to make sure that you knew the answer

[mexicools2006]

Originally Posted by Al Stevens Actually I thought he answered it in a respectful manner, also putting your name in brackets was to make sure that you knew the answer

mkkid r u aww?

[Saz]

Well I guess I've been told then.