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Evil Gringo 24-10-2004 02:44 PM

Earthquake in Niigata, Japan, 21 dead, over 2,000 injured...
 
Yesterday when I was rounding up the news of the latest puro offerings I discovered there had been a Eathquake that was 6.8 on the scale in Niigata Japan. It has come just after the country has been hit by a series of devasting Typhoons.

Reports so far have stated that at least 21 people have died and that over 2000 are injured, some seriously. I haven't any of this on the news over here though, nor any of the Typhoons?

As the world is acting up and nature is killing people shouldn't we take a look at what where doing to the enviroment and how it is causing some natural disasters?

These are some pictures of just some of the damage caused...

http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/img/1-A-20041024192327431L.jpg

http://www.sanspo.com/sokuho/image/041024NK026A24.jpg

http://www.sanspo.com/sokuho/image/041024NK028A24.jpg

http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/img/2004102...214816858M.jpg

Who gives a rats ass if Rooney is gonna stop Arsenal's run, or if Posh Spice has stopped pouting or whatever else is crap in the news in yesterdays paper when there is problems like this in the world. Think about that.

Verb 24-10-2004 02:59 PM

it's natural, nothing we can do..

107 people are killed on the roads a day, should we all stop driving?

Kakarot 24-10-2004 04:02 PM

Totally agre with your last comment Gringo, some people need a serious reality check. But unortunatly, theres nothing we can do about earthquakes. What we can do is stop adding to the death toll by killing each ther whnen natures doing a good enough job already.

Evil Gringo 24-10-2004 05:29 PM

Well Earthquakes I know are beyond human control, its due to the friction of tetonic plates and all that other info you learn in science and geography. But the fact is did any of you notice that it hail stoned in Britain whilst also thundering in the middle of July?

Thats freakish weather caused by the changing of our enviroment. As is the profilferation of the Tyhpoons that are hitting the Japanese islands and the Hurricanes and such hitting the south east of the US and the tropics...

But nothing has been said about them very much in this country, people are forgeting the enviroment! The worlds weather is changing a great deal and has over the past decade and yet all people care about is gossip and crap.

And under that same umbrellea there is a huge disaster in Japan and hardly a word is spoken about it. Their is a volcano known as St Helena in the US that is fit to blow again and nothing is really said... the last time that one went it was horrific, tey based the film Dantes Peak on that one....

People have become blind to what really matters and at this time the fate of our spieces due to its own mis-managment of resources, abuse and also our ignorance of our planet it may cause our ultimate downfall.

Walshy 24-10-2004 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Robert Gringo
the fate of our spieces due to its own mis-managment of resources, abuse and also our ignorance of our planet it may cause our ultimate downfall.

May? No no, it will, emerging countries are causing major pollution now, America refuses to cut down on the pollution is sends out into the Enviroment, Britain is destroying land and wildlife in scandanavia, why? Because they want to make money.

In 20 years time there will be no oil, so why don't we invest in clean transport now so Oil can be used less and therefore saved for future uses, why? Because people want to make money.

In 50 years there will be no coal, so why don't we use it less and use alternative ways of making Electricity? Because it costs too much!

People's own greed is destroying the planet, America & Europe use most of the worlds resources despite having only a small percentage of the worlds population, this is leading to people starving to death all over the world.

While I don't think the coming Enviromental and following Humanitarian disaster will be the end of mankind I doubt there will be many survivors, a few million, here and there maybe, who knows.

As for people being more interested in soaps, sport and celebs than real life, well real life is crap, thats why people would rather concentrait on something more glamorous.

What the people of the world need to do is see that we are all the same, and we must work together to make life as good as possible for everyone, however this is extremely unlikely, and so things will get worse, oh well.

Jung 24-10-2004 07:42 PM

"People have become blind to what really matters and at this time the fate of our spieces due to its own mis-managment of resources, abuse and also our ignorance of our planet it may cause our ultimate downfall."

Jeez man no offence but get off your moral high horse, sounds like that speech Christian Bale gives in American Psycho about changing the world. A giant earthquake has hit Japan and caused devastation, yeah its terrible, but you can't just make the entire world have all the same thoughts and same attention. The world is made up of different people, with different agendas, and different interests, and nothing will ever change that. You can argue, it's what makes the world bad, but it also makes the world good, double edged sword.

I'm sorry to get arsey, but ure complaining and righteousness, is eventually totally pointless, and almost hypocritical. People aren't forgetting things, nor ignoring them, but when you have meterological events, poverty, famine, racism, etc what exactly can you do? We cant focus on every single one of them, can we? You can't unite billions of people, into having the same intentions, meaning nothing will change.

Unfortunately the world is what it is, and you gotta accept it. Yeah people won't ever realise, whatever generation. And telling people on a message board what's wrong with their lives and the world, ain't gonna change anything.

Kakarot 24-10-2004 08:14 PM

Alright, so it probably wont change anything, but that doesn't change the fact that he's spot on. And its exactly the sort of attitude you showed, accepting everything and cant be arsed to do anything about, that got things in such a mess in the first place.

Jung 24-10-2004 08:27 PM

At what point did I say I couldn't be arsed to do anything about it?

Alright then, you go and tell however many billion people in the world, to all do the same things, not do some things, and give up these things. Your missing the point completely. Everyone knows how to stop it, its dead easy in theory, but nie on impossible in practise. I give to charities, do sponsored runs, heck don't even drive, or smoke, so don't bother saying I sit on my arse doing nothing, when we are both sitting on our arses on a machine which is half the reason people don't take enough notice of these "real" problems.

This isn't a case of, "we could have stopped it years ago" like everyone makes out. Mobile phones are bad for health, and certainly breed a lax attitude towards these real events, yet we aim to produce better ones, advancingin technology which is a good thing. We invent the internet for good reasons, same with television. So your saying living in the dark ages, with nobody using creativity is what the world should be?

The more advanced you get in any aspect, means whatever negativity, you have to accept the consequences. I don't like it, and I want to help and change, but u have to be logical and practical, and think of how much it would take to change things.

Kakarot 24-10-2004 11:42 PM

Correct me if im missing the point again, but when exactly did I say that it was technologys fault the worlds such a sh*thole at the moment. I didn't. And I happen to wish all the billions of people on this planet did think the same way (at least as far as the problems you mentioned go) Its not a question of taking their individuality or creativity, but rather getting everyone to see whats important. And quite frankly I think a lot of people do ignore whats going on. Is easy to when its happening the other side of hte world. Most people seem to take the 'if its not happening here its not my problem stance.' Yes, its easy to sit here and type all the answers, but he was just making a point, and a good one at that. If people cared as much about the state of the world as they do football or Eastenders things would probably improve.

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The more advanced you get in any aspect, means whatever negativity, you have to accept the consequences. I don't like it, and I want to help and change, but u have to be logical and practical, and think of how much it would take to change things.
Fine, except for a small flaw. The negativity we 'accept' for these great technologies id not directed at us. And its obvious one guy giving to charity isn't going to change things on it's own, which is why everyone should chip in. And quite frankly its the people who get paid ridiculous amounts of money for not a lot of work that should take a look in the mirror. But I wont go into that because what are the chances their reading this.

Jung 25-10-2004 12:10 AM

I don't think its people who get paid a load of money's fault. I mean if you were offered lots of money for not doing much, of course you'd take it, surely you'd be stupid not to?

Obviously everyone should chip in, but they won't, and that's my point. I wish the same things as you do, but unfortunately it won't and can't ever happen, because everyone would have to think the same way, and unfortunately they don't and won't ever. Basically the whole of this argument, is about ifs, and that's all they are.

Things probably would improve if people cared like they do with Eastenders, but they won't, and that's that. Sure it would be a dream if they did, but if they did. I guess I'm tired of hearing how everyone has these solutions, when the solutions are clearly obvious in theory, but impossible in reality. We didn't get into a mess, just by evolving, and going with the times, did we forget some things, and priorities change, and that's our own fault, every single person on the planet, including those saying we should change.


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