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give little maddy back to her mummy & daddy,where she belongs.
Not being funny, but I'm fearing the worst already. I do hope and pray she is found safe and sound, but I'm not sure its gonna happen now.
Hopefully she is found, safe and well.
I don't want to drag this thread down, but I'm annoyed at this story so much. I won't go into it, but her parents are a disgrace. Absolutely appalling behaviour. Sickening, even.
I hope this doesn't turn into another "OMG PAEDO" witch hunt like the Sarah Payne saga (which made me physically sick to be a part of this country, knowing how stupid we and our tabloids really are) did.
This country needs Chris Morris more than ever.
Burakiosaurus
08-05-2007, 09:17 PM
i agree with Jack, can't believe they left their kids in the room whilst they went out to eat. After all the stories about abduction we have had in the last year ... terrible parenting
Hardcore Holly
08-05-2007, 09:31 PM
I dont know if I would be able to handle it, lets ll hope she is returned safely but to be honest it isnt looking good at the moment :(
Al Stevens
08-05-2007, 09:51 PM
As much as i hope that they find little Madeleine i am like good to go i actually fear the worse.
Also as much as the grand parnets and friends can say they are great parents the whole fact they left there little girl in a strange place alone in the room, is there fault. No one elses but there own
chaps
08-05-2007, 09:53 PM
Stupid sons of bitches. that is all!
Darkstar
08-05-2007, 10:05 PM
Sod anything else, right now I just hope she is found unharmed in any way.
Regardless of who was at fault, I hope she's found unharmed.
Dark Dodo
08-05-2007, 10:29 PM
i have kids and me and the wife dont leave the kids unatended.
we went on holiday to wales last year and went out just the 2 of us. and did we leave our kids alone. no as some one was there 2 keep an eye on them.
i know people who go abroad and would do that.
but at the end of the day the parents are only human and are regretting doing it already. leave them be and lets all hope the little girl is found alive and unharmed
Nicole
08-05-2007, 10:40 PM
Parents are a disgrace. If a single parent/teen parent had done it, there would be a witch hunt against the parent involved.
Oh and Dra, whats your problem with peoples witchunting of paedophiles? They touch kids. They deserve all the treatment they get.
Hope the girls found safe though. Shes gorgeous.
Oh and Dra, whats your problem with peoples witchunting of paedophiles? They touch kids. They deserve all the treatment they get.
Brass Eye - Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7jVnrfoZD8)
Brass Eye - Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcnQDYnGtS8)
Brass Eye - Part 3 (http://youtube.com/watch?v=fA07Tw4iEFw)
Probably the greatest piece of satire ever created on British TV. Sums up everything I hate about our media and society when it comes to this (and other) subject.
Mass hysteria caused by the national tabloids turning innocent victims into sexed-up celebrities in order to sell more papers, unnecessarily scaring the public dumb enough to take newspapers at face value, and creating a sense of solidarity by setting fire to houses and going so far as to threaten the life of a paedtrician because they were too stupid to know the difference between one and a paedophile. It's sensationalism at its finest.
Of course I feel sorry for the girl who was kidnapped. No one deserves to be kidnapped or to face the torture of a loved one being taken away from you. Doesn't mean I can't hate our country for being so stupid and narrow minded when it comes to dealing with it.
OMAR DAYS
08-05-2007, 10:57 PM
In these cases you need Need Dog the Bounty Hunter, he always gets whats he's looking for! But Seriously, Her Parents shouldn't have gone for a jolly up and leave the kids on there own for one!
If it was me, I would kill the person(s), ask the wife when Kirsty was almost grabbed when we went away, I went looking for them.
Really hope she is ok and they find her alive and well, then sort the mum and dad out for leaving her in first place.
Nemesis Enforcer
08-05-2007, 11:15 PM
Hope she is safe and well, been watching this story unfold on the news (i'm always watching BBC, ITV news) and she is a very sweet looking little girl, its hard to imagine how it must feel to have your kid snatched and you have to feel for the parents
I do think the parents are at fault though and what Nicole said was right about the reaction if it were a single parent/teen who was in this situation and DraVen makes a very good point about how the stories are whipped up
Mr. Perfect
09-05-2007, 12:18 AM
Ok, who is Maddy and whats happened?
Hope the girls found safe though. Shes gorgeous.
Hope she is safe and well, been watching this story unfold on the news (i'm always watching BBC, ITV news) and she is a very sweet looking little girl, its hard to imagine how it must feel to have your kid snatched and you have to feel for the parents
Would it make a difference if she looked like the Elephant Man?
carlito is cool
09-05-2007, 12:28 AM
Parents were at fault here but my thoughts are truly with them i can't imagine what they must be going through. Hope she is found safe and well.
Cathal
09-05-2007, 12:58 AM
The parents may be at fault but if that girl is never found both their lives are ruined and they will have to live with the guilt of this for the rest of their lives.I can't help but fell deeply sorry for them as I wouldn't widh that on anyone but hopefully they can find the girl.
Burakiosaurus
09-05-2007, 01:52 AM
Would it make a difference if she looked like the Elephant Man?
why don't you ask your avatar.
facist
My avatar won't stop to talk to me. Acid trips seem to work that way for avatars.
Shame though. The conversation would be immense.
Right, ok, there were too many comments to quote so i'll just post this.
Why blame the parents? They were, what, a stones throw away and were checking them every half hour. That's the same as putting your kids to bed and being downstairs. I used to live in a 3 story house and the kids would be asleep on the top floor while i'd be downstairs. Sometimes i'd even go into the garden with them inside. I wouldn't check on them every half hour! If someone was going to abduct this poor wee thing, then they'd have found a way regardless.
Nicole
09-05-2007, 08:30 AM
The thing is though, what your describing is what I imagine some parents do everyday. You still have more of a chance of protecting those children because you are in close proximity. The children that they left on their own were very young, and they weren't close to hand, they were walking to and from the resteraunt to see them. If they had been downstairs, maybe they would have been alerted to something going on, or maybe they would have been quicker to determine what had exactly happened.
I just hope she gets back to her parents safe and well.
The thing is though, what your describing is what I imagine some parents do everyday. You still have more of a chance of protecting those children because you are in close proximity. The children that they left on their own were very young, and they weren't close to hand, they were walking to and from the resteraunt to see them. If they had been downstairs, maybe they would have been alerted to something going on, or maybe they would have been quicker to determine what had exactly happened.Yeah but the restaurant wasn't that far away. And unfortunately, the likelihood of them "spotting anything" would have been slim, it's not as if the kidnapper would have been sat staring into the window, waving hello or anything. If the room was locked up (which i'm assuming it was since he/she/they broke in) then what more could they have done? Perhaps they shouldn't have gone but most hotels now have a "nanny service" over the phone, where you leave your phone off the hook and just call the room, to check if the baby/child is awake or crying, etc. If they' done it that way, would we be blaming them or the hotel?
Nicole
09-05-2007, 08:37 AM
You wouldn't blame them if they had taken precautions, but to be fair in my eyes they seemed to do jack beyond locking the door. There was a babysitting service on site, but they'd rather leave their babies on their own in a strange country where friends or neighbours cannot help. I just don't understand their logic at all, and as I said, if they had been a lower class family, the papers would have criticised them big style.
Darkstar
09-05-2007, 08:42 AM
I....agree with Nicole. how odd. ;)
Its NOT like leaving a kid upstairs, they basicly left a kid in another building. not cool, and obviously not a good idea.
Miss T
09-05-2007, 10:11 AM
When I go on holiday with family etc if we want to go out for dinner we do it early so the kids eat with us, I find it unacceptable to leave a child in a building alone. I bet whoever snatched her had seen the parents leave the children at home before! Saying that the parents will never forgive themselves for leaving the kids so they hardly need us preaching about good parenting! I hope Maddy is returned safely but I fear the worst.
lawrence619
09-05-2007, 10:17 AM
Would it make a difference if she looked like the Elephant Man?
I've been to portugal and blonde haired blue eyed children are considered to be very beautiful there. I'm pretty sure she would have stood out, and been noticed because of how she looks. Of course not being pretty wouldn't have made it any less of a tragedy.
Its so easy in the cold light of day to blame the parents. From watching the BBC News last night on BBC America, it seems the restraunt they were at and the apartment was less than 50 metres away. Now I know there are some on here saying that the parents were irresponsible and a disgrace, but as Nimf said, they were checking every half an hour, Can you honestly question the parents? And say that you wouldnt feel like them, the sheer incredulity that someone would come into your apartment in the first place, Its not like an everyday occurence especially whilst your on holiday
I do agree with Draven, regarding the with hunt, I hope that isnt created from this. Though I think due to Portugese laws this will be avoided, as you are unable to mention in anyway any of the suspects.
I feel for the parents, the terrible sense of guilt and hurt, because whatever people say on here about there parenting skills and a momentary lapse of judgement which I think anyone would make, comments like the one below
Stupid sons of bitches. that is all!
Is incredibly stupid and insensitive, There parents of a child who is missing and in danger, feared dead, the hurt must be unbearable
I hope for her safe return, but with a Police Force, who by the day seem to be more inept, I fear the worst
Irwol
09-05-2007, 10:47 AM
But come on seriously, in the same situation i would never leave my children on their own. you hear about things like this too often for my liking, and It wasnt just Maddy who was there her little brothers were there too, what if they had taken all of them???
They were babies, What if was of them was sick - you can choke in seconds, and they were checking on them every 30 minutes!! I pray for her safe return and hope everyone learns from this.
They were babies, What if was of them was sick - you can choke in seconds, and they were checking on them every 30 minutes!! I pray for her safe return and hope everyone learns from this.I think this is a bit much, kids can choke in seconds, yes, but you can't watch them every second of every day!
But I accept Nicoles comments, it was a bit irresponsible of the parents, I just don't like the way people are blaming them. Blame is a huge word.
Burakiosaurus
09-05-2007, 11:08 AM
but in this case the finger of it is pointing tho them
She could have gone with her parents choked on some food and died! Its easy to say that! Obviously Ia m not a parent so my judgement is different to others on this, but I can see what the parents were thinking. Its not like the restraunt was on the other side of the resort, it was 50 metres away within the hotel complex, a complex that the parents obviously felt safe in. Furthermore as mentioned, they were checking on their children at regular occasions.
I like Nimf agree with some of the comments on here, I do find it slighty irresponsible, but without all the facts feel that the backlash towards the parents is unfair, especially as in the same situation, I believe a large percentage would have done the same
Nemesis Enforcer
09-05-2007, 01:06 PM
Would it make a difference if she looked like the Elephant Man?
Nope, I was just saying she is a sweet looking girl, if it was some butt ugly kid i'd still say the same that I hope they are safe :)
Burakiosaurus
09-05-2007, 04:18 PM
I believe a large percentage would have done the same
in my opinion, that is bad parenting. even if it was fort knox, i wouldn't leave children unattended
but hey, lets hope Maddy is found safely and then call social services
in my opinion, that is bad parenting. even if it was fort knox, i wouldn't leave children unattended
but hey, lets hope Maddy is found safely and then call social servicesDC and I are having our reception in a hotel in a few months and most likely i'll be putting Josh to bed in my parents hotel room and doing the phone Nanny service thing. If that makes me a bad parent then so be it, i'd rather that than him be kept awake by everyone in the room we're hiring. I'll phone social services on myself if you like?
I don't think it' "wrong" to do that. Just don't be shocked if (and God willing that'll never happen) your child goes missing. I think the point is not "oh look, awful parents" but more "Jesus Christ, why are they so surprised?".
Okonkwo
09-05-2007, 05:44 PM
I hope this doesn't turn into another "OMG PAEDO" witch hunt like the Sarah Payne saga (which made me physically sick to be a part of this country, knowing how stupid we and our tabloids really are) did.
This country needs Chris Morris more than ever.
We? Knowing how stupid 'we' are? Is this the royal 'we'? Bit of a generalisation there. Besides, heres a piece of news for you. England isn't the only country in the entire world with sensationalist tabloid press.
And lets think about the last statement some more. Does this country really need Chris Morris more than ever? His last show was Nathan Barley. No-one enjoyed that. Besides, I've heard he's taking time out after The Day Today and Brasseye to concentrate on writing that difficult second joke.
I'll be quite honest, this is a half baked attempt at a credible cynical opinion.
The Beltster
09-05-2007, 05:47 PM
As some have said already, the parents deserve all the blame, they are a complete disgrace. If they hadnt left her alone, she wouldnt have been taken, end of story. It is their fault.
I wouldnt f'n dream of leaving my son on his own, asleep in a foreign country (or ANYWHERE for that matter) while I buggered off out to eat. What type of parents pull that kind of sh*t?! If you take your kids on a family holiday, then thats exactly what it is: A FAMILY HOLIDAY! You dont leave them asleep while you go out to eat, you either all go out together or not at all and thats that.
Now we have this pair of idiots crying and sobbing all over our TV's...hey here is an idea you retards: DONT LEAVE HER ALONE WHILE YOU GO OUT FOR A GOD DAMN MEAL!!!
I've all the sympathy in the World for the little girls other family, friends and for her herself, but none for the parents. Sad thing is, she is probably dead already.
Kanenite
09-05-2007, 06:16 PM
I've been following this and it's disgusting to see what's happening. She's such a cute innocent little girl and some heartless person has taken her away from her family where she belongs. I seriously hope that Madeline is ok and this person gets some time.
We? Knowing how stupid 'we' are? Is this the royal 'we'? Bit of a generalisation there. Besides, heres a piece of news for you. England isn't the only country in the entire world with sensationalist tabloid press.
Really? Oh my God, and here was me thinking that England was a sole cause for concern. So you're saying that, for example, Fox News is not a credible source of journalism for all of America. Incredible, you learn something new every day.
And yes, it was a generalisation. I think anyone with half a brain would have been able to figure out it was as such. But please, keep digging further.
Oh wait, you did...
And lets think about the last statement some more. Does this country really need Chris Morris more than ever? His last show was Nathan Barley. No-one enjoyed that. Besides, I've heard he's taking time out after The Day Today and Brasseye to concentrate on writing that difficult second joke.
WAIT A GOSH-DARN MINUTE...
Bit of a generalisation there.
No-one enjoyed that.
Bit of a generalisation there.
No-one enjoyed that.
Bit of a generalisation there.
No-one enjoyed that.
So which are you? The one who got slapped by irony? Or the one trying to be ironic to prove a point about generalisations that really doesn't need proving and is about as irrelevent to this thread as [insert pop-culture reference and juxtaposition here]
I'll be quite honest, this is a half baked attempt at a credible cynical opinion.
And I'll be quite honest. You didn't try hard enough at whatever you tried to do. Next time, make your point clear, and then... wait, sorry, what I meant to say was, actually develop a point, read the rest of the thread and then come back to us.
As some have said already, the parents deserve all the blame, they are a complete disgrace. If they hadnt left her alone, she wouldnt have been taken, end of story. It is their fault
I wouldnt f'n dream of leaving my son on his own, asleep in a foreign country (or ANYWHERE for that matter) while I buggered off out to eat. What type of parents pull that kind of sh*t?! If you take your kids on a family holiday, then thats exactly what it is: A FAMILY HOLIDAY! You dont leave them asleep while you go out to eat, you either all go out together or not at all and thats that.
Now we have this pair of idiots crying and sobbing all over our TV's...hey here is an idea you retards: DONT LEAVE HER ALONE WHILE YOU GO OUT FOR A GOD DAMN MEAL!!!
I've all the sympathy in the World for the little girls other family, friends and for her herself, but none for the parents. Sad thing is, she is probably dead already.
I really wouldnt call them a disgrace, they made a judgement of error, its not like they went out partying for the night, they were sat in a restaraunt in the hotel complex where they could see their own balcony, and were checking the children every 30 minutes, Yes it may have been a family holiday....but I know my parents left my sisters and I alone once on a family holiday. I can understand if an accident had occured that the parents were irresponsible, but....
Just don't be shocked if (and God willing that'll never happen) your child goes missing
Would you really expect for someone to break into your hotel room and take your child? Sorry Drav, but should everybody expect because they are leaving their child alone in a hotel room, not 2 floors up, that they are open for a 'take my child' free for all?
And Belty as for saying criticsing the parents as this pair of idiots crying and sobbing all over our TV's...hey here is an idea you retards: DONT LEAVE HER ALONE WHILE YOU GO OUT FOR A GOD DAMN MEAL!!!
They are still parents, they have still lost there child, they may have made an error of judgement, but the facts are they are still parents whose child is missing, Surely as a parent you can understand their anguish, instead of slating them at what has to be the most difficult time
Dark Dodo
09-05-2007, 08:19 PM
at the end of the day as a parent these things happen . all it takes is one false sense of security and wham. lets not focus on what they did as i am sure they are beating themselves up and hating themselves every minute that goes by with no sign of their daughter.
lets turn our attention to maddy. in the days on ctv and internet i know this sounds like a daft idea but is there anything we could do.
even if it is send our wishes of luck and comfort to them.
Okonkwo
10-05-2007, 01:44 AM
Really? Oh my God, and here was me thinking that England was a sole cause for concern. So you're saying that, for example, Fox News is not a credible source of journalism for all of America. Incredible, you learn something new every day.
And yes, it was a generalisation. I think anyone with half a brain would have been able to figure out it was as such. But please, keep digging further.
Oh wait, you did...
WAIT A GOSH-DARN MINUTE...
So which are you? The one who got slapped by irony? Or the one trying to be ironic to prove a point about generalisations that really doesn't need proving and is about as irrelevent to this thread as [insert pop-culture reference and juxtaposition here]
And I'll be quite honest. You didn't try hard enough at whatever you tried to do. Next time, make your point clear, and then... wait, sorry, what I meant to say was, actually develop a point, read the rest of the thread and then come back to us.
Here's another generalisation for you Draven (forgive me for not spelling your name with a capital 'V').
All people who post on internet forums are dull. Their arguments are boring, unintelligible, devoid of humour and aren't really worth reading.
Wait, wait, wait. Did I just get slapped by irony?!
This argument demeans us both. This is a thread dedicated to the memory of a little girl (because lets face it people, she isn't coming back) and you want to start a petty argument by quoting a previous post? Shocking.
Here's another generalisation for you Draven (forgive me for not spelling your name with a capital 'V').
Apology accepted...
All people who post on internet forums are dull. Their arguments are boring, unintelligible, devoid of humour and aren't really worth reading.
Insert Darkstar joke here.
Wait, wait, wait. Did I just get slapped by irony?!
Not sure. I'm too busy trying to regain my lost IQ points.
This argument demeans us both. This is a thread dedicated to the memory of a little girl (because lets face it people, she isn't coming back) and you want to start a petty argument by quoting a previous post?
I didn't want to start anything. You kickstarted this little party when you quoted my original post and levelled a veiled attack on me. I, on the other hand, didn't. Keep digging though. I can just give you a list of all the wrongs I've done in my life if it'll make your time here easier.
Shocking.
I only quoted this because it looked a little left out. Hi, quote.
Okonkwo
10-05-2007, 02:21 AM
I know you didn't want to start anything Drave (can I call you Drave?), I was joking. I am infact well aware that it was me that started this pathetic attempt at an argument by quoting you. I was being ironical, all the while trying to dodge being slapped by it. I know you've lost a few ''IQ points'' recently and I'm aware its nearly half two in the morning but even you must've seen that.
Seriously though, dead child. Perspective my friend.
Hang on, why isn't she coming back? Until and unless they find a body, I still have a glimmer of hope that she is ok. What about that girl that was found after being held captive for 10 years or something?And wasn't there a case with a boy too?
Anime_Otaku
10-05-2007, 10:45 AM
Statisticly after about 48 hours (may be a little more or less, not exactly sure) the likelyhood of a person be8ng found plummets so she is most probably dead.
Oh I know her chances are slim but it seems that some people have just written her off already.
Nemesis Enforcer
10-05-2007, 01:03 PM
The news are saying the Brtish police have gone over to help and are investigating if this was a British Paedophile ring who kidnapped her 'for order'
Murph
10-05-2007, 04:12 PM
at the end of the day as a parent these things happen
Your kid gets abducted?
Oh I know her chances are slim but it seems that some people have just written her off already.
I dont want to write her off, I hope (like everyone else) she is found alive and well, but the unfortunate reality is that the more days that go by, the less chance that is likely to happen. :(
The.Icon
10-05-2007, 06:20 PM
I don't know who this girl is, nor have I heard anything about this story. I guess it's an English thing. Still reading through the thread my prayers are with Her.
Nemesis Enforcer
10-05-2007, 06:22 PM
Ok, who is Maddy and whats happened?
I don't know who this girl is, nor have I heard anything about this story. I guess it's an English thing. Still reading through the thread my prayers are with Her.
Maddy is a 3 year old girl who was snatched from a hotel room in Portugal that her parents had left her and her little brothers sleeping in, checking on them once every 30 mins, while they went to eat at a nearby resteraunt to fill you in on the story
The.Icon
10-05-2007, 06:26 PM
I have not watched much of Sky News this week so I guess I just missed the story.
I don't know who this girl is, nor have I heard anything about this story. I guess it's an English thing. Still reading through the thread my prayers are with Her.
Here (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/topstories/tm_headline=maddy--3-goes-missing&method=full&objectid=19048526&siteid=89520-name_page.html) is an article from The Daily Mirror on the story of the missing 3 year old girl Maddy McCann
The.Icon
10-05-2007, 06:29 PM
Thanks but I looked up the info as soon as I finished reading through the thread.
Kanenite
10-05-2007, 06:36 PM
I don't know who this girl is, nor have I heard anything about this story. I guess it's an English thing. Still reading through the thread my prayers are with Her.
I'm surprised you haven't heard it. It's been reported in many different countries worldwide and is in the paper every day.
People here who are saying they're idiots etc, why are they? I know a lot of kids who have been left on there own at home, I was left at home as a kid if my parents nipped to the shop. I know this is on a whole different level but the parents must've felt the grounds were safe enough to leave their children alone for an hour. Sadly enough this situation happens and they were unfortunate enough for it to be their child, they'll feel nothing but guilt and be distraught. It will open other parents eyes though that this happens and it isn't safe to leave your kids alone abroad or even at home.
No-one thought of the fact that portuguese people regard Blonde hair blue eyes as angelic and she may well still be alive and have been sold? NO? didnt think so.
I hope she is found soon, unlike Ben 15 years ago who was never found but never believed to be dead either.
I think it's ridiculous that any parent would leave their children alone at any time, especially in a foreign contry for goodness sake. What on earth possessed them to think it was ok to leave these little ones alone? I've just come back from a family holiday and I didnt take my eyes off my kids once I am vigilant at all times home or away I trust no-one (best way to be) I couldn't forgive myself if anything happened. Why not take the children with them for a meal, tight a** bandits probably didnt want to spend too much money.
If anyone is offended by this tough dont care REALLY DONT CARE! They dont deserve to be parents to such loving things if they think its perfectly acceptable to leave them alone to go stuff their face, had I done that 2 years ago when I was single and it happened to me it would be media frenzy but because its a tidy couple nice house family car and tassles its not mentioned they may not be good parents.
You want a holiday where you dont have to take the kids to dinner go away without them leave them with family dont leave them with the electric babysitter (TV)
I hope for her safe return just to know she's ok not for the sake of her lower than low IQ parents.
xXx
Actually, all the papers HAVE commented on them leaving the kids alone (asleep, not with the "electronic babysitter"). And saying they prob didnt want to spend money-ahem, presume much? maybe the kids were tired, you know, like kids get, so they put them to bed then went to eat? Just because, in unfortunate hindsight, it was a bad idea, doesn't mean they should be judged as bad parents on this one tragic event!!! Are you telling me that you have never, not once, dont something in regards to your children that people would string you up for?
Burakiosaurus
10-05-2007, 09:59 PM
it was a bad parenting move which leads to them being dubbed 'bad parents'
Okonkwo
11-05-2007, 12:13 AM
People seem to be laying the blame on the parents alot. At the end of the day, despite all the bad parenting, the blame in its entirety lies with the person who actually stole her from her families room. Forgive me if I'm wrong.
And 'Taki', seriously, you want to start criticising people for not being careful enough? You have two children at the age of 25. Maybe if you had been a little bit more careful yourself you could've enjoyed your freedom and not totallly ruined your life at a young age.
dpddave
11-05-2007, 05:37 AM
And 'Taki', seriously, you want to start criticising people for not being careful enough? You have two children at the age of 25. Maybe if you had been a little bit more careful yourself you could've enjoyed your freedom and not totallly ruined your life at a young age.
Whats her having kids got to do with anything?
And how the hell does her having two kids mean her life is ruined....did ye ever think she could be happy with the kids?
Heres 20p go buy yourself a clue
And 'Taki', seriously, you want to start criticising people for not being careful enough? You have two children at the age of 25. Maybe if you had been a little bit more careful yourself you could've enjoyed your freedom and not totallly ruined your life at a young age.So?
Whats her having kids got to do with anything?
And how the hell does her having two kids mean her life is ruined....did ye ever think she could be happy with the kids?
Heres 20p go buy yourself a clueWhat dpdd said, to a tee. I have 3 kids at 28, wanna have a go at me? Dive on in mate.
Miss T
11-05-2007, 09:49 AM
People seem to be laying the blame on the parents alot. At the end of the day, despite all the bad parenting, the blame in its entirety lies with the person who actually stole her from her families room. Forgive me if I'm wrong.
And 'Taki', seriously, you want to start criticising people for not being careful enough? You have two children at the age of 25. Maybe if you had been a little bit more careful yourself you could've enjoyed your freedom and not totallly ruined your life at a young age.
Whoaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, low blow!!!!!!! :eek
Darkstar
11-05-2007, 10:05 AM
And 'Taki', seriously, you want to start criticising people for not being careful enough? You have two children at the age of 25. Maybe if you had been a little bit more careful yourself you could've enjoyed your freedom and not totallly ruined your life at a young age.
Maybe she planned them? Ever thought of that?
My mum had 3 kids by the time she was Takis age, want to take a shot at her?
For the record mind, my mums life is far from ruined. She has a great house, is happy with herself and her kids and has a very loving family around her.
People seem to be laying the blame on the parents alot. At the end of the day, despite all the bad parenting, the blame in its entirety lies with the person who actually stole her from her families room. Forgive me if I'm wrong.
And 'Taki', seriously, you want to start criticising people for not being careful enough? You have two children at the age of 25. Maybe if you had been a little bit more careful yourself you could've enjoyed your freedom and not totallly ruined your life at a young age.
Im speechless....seriously...I am speechless....:roll
I trust no-one (best way to be)This is both sad (as in actually sad, not sad as in uncool) and wrong IMO. You have my pity (wanted or not) if you feel you are better going through life not trusting anyone.
And 'Taki', seriously, you want to start criticising people for not being careful enough? You have two children at the age of 25. Maybe if you had been a little bit more careful yourself you could've enjoyed your freedom and not totallly ruined your life at a young age.As for this....I am struggling to remember a more ill-informed and ignorant post.
Burakiosaurus
11-05-2007, 12:16 PM
to quote Ron Simmons ... 'damn'
The.Icon
11-05-2007, 03:18 PM
People seem to be laying the blame on the parents alot. At the end of the day, despite all the bad parenting, the blame in its entirety lies with the person who actually stole her from her families room. Forgive me if I'm wrong.
And 'Taki', seriously, you want to start criticising people for not being careful enough? You have two children at the age of 25. Maybe if you had been a little bit more careful yourself you could've enjoyed your freedom and not totallly ruined your life at a young age.
My Mother had me and my Sister before She was 25, don't see Her life in ruins. Please think before you type mate.
dpddave
11-05-2007, 03:26 PM
Im speechless....seriously...I am speechless....:roll
Now im speechless.....seriously....i am :P
Miss T
11-05-2007, 04:36 PM
Please think before you type mate.
:lol :lol :lol :lol I love you :worship :worship :worship
The.Icon
11-05-2007, 04:47 PM
:lol :lol :lol :lol I love you :worship :worship :worship
You can stalk me if you like but sorry I am spoken for. :P
Has anybody heard any up to date news about the Girl?
Miss T
11-05-2007, 04:50 PM
You can stalk me if you like but sorry I am spoken for. :P
Its ok because I hate you :)
The.Icon
11-05-2007, 04:51 PM
Its ok because I hate you :)
It's ok because I love you.
Nemesis Enforcer
11-05-2007, 05:11 PM
Latest news KM is that reports are comming in that a girl matching her description was spotted with a blonde woman and 2 men a day after she went missing
And apparently there's been a reward put up by aScottish busines man of a million pounds, plus a friend of the family has put up,i think, £100,000.
Kanenite
11-05-2007, 07:51 PM
If anything i'd hope this would draw people in to give information, useful information though as i'm sure a few people will talk a load of crap and be better off money wise.
The reward is for information leading to finding her, so at least it won't go to any moose who phones and says "yeah, I saw a blonde girl".
Darkstar
15-05-2007, 09:29 AM
Maddy is a 3 year old girl who was snatched from a hotel room in Portugal that her parents had left her and her little brothers sleeping in, checking on them once every 30 mins, while they went to eat at a nearby resteraunt to fill you in on the story
The story is now the parents are claiming they checked every 15 minutes....which is funny as it takes 5 minutes to walk from the resteraunt to the room according to staff at the site.
I was talking to my mum about this and I learnt something horrid. I was stolen as a child! :(
Turns out my parents and my aunty June and her fella had gone to Butlins for the weekend when I was 9 months old (ish). I was in a pushchair next to the 4 adults. My mum went to get a drink, came back and the push chair was gone! thats right, my dad didnt see his only son (at the time) being pushed away in a 3 foot high stroller. :roll
Eventually a woman ran up to my rather hysterical mum and told us what had happened.....her 5 year old daughter saw my pushchair and thought it was hers as she had one the exact same at home that she pushed her dolls around in. So a 5 year old abducted me thinking I was a doll. :(
Yeesh.
LOL that's not funny but it is...
Goes to show how things change-when we were little, you could leave us in prams outside shops and we'd still be there when our parents came back out!
Once, when my Grandma went to town with my Uncle,she left him outside a shop, went and did her shopping then got the bus home, only remembering half way home that she's left my Uncle outside the shop!! And he was still sitting there when she got back, fast asleep.
Miss T
15-05-2007, 10:06 AM
Kidknapped by a five year old :lol
Darkstar
15-05-2007, 10:09 AM
I know, sometimes I cant belive it myself.
Hardcore Holly
15-05-2007, 02:07 PM
Briton 'suspect' in Madeleine probe
A British man questioned by police investigating the disappearance of Madeleine McCann has been officially classed as a "suspect" .
Robert Murat was questioned late on Tuesday night while forensic experts searched his house just yards from where the four-year-old was snatched 12 days ago.
He was one of three people questioned by detectives in the town of Portimao. All three were released overnight.
Although he has not been charged and is not believed to be in custody, it is thought he is the first person to be formally classed as a suspect.
Among items taken from the house which was searched on Monday night were videotapes and a computer, witnesses said.
Under Portuguese law, people who are questioned are not under arrest but simply treated as witnesses.
Arrests can only be made when police consider someone a suspect or possible suspect and then they require a court order before they can be cast as such.
Chief Inspector Olegario Sousa, spokesman for the Madeleine McCann investigation, said on Tuesday that a British man in his thirties taken from the house which was searched has now been classed as an "arguido".
Madeleine was snatched from her bed in the resort town of Praia da Luz on May 3 while her parents were dining nearby. There has been no news of her whereabouts since.
On Tuesday her parents Gerry and Kate emerged from the apartment where they are staying with their twin children Sean and Amelie and walked the short distance to a nearby creche to drop them off.
What do yous make of this??
I dont think its him to be honest.....
I think the Portugese Police are being pressured into making hasty decisions by the media intensity that is surrounding the case....
For example the person that first mentioned Mr Murat to the Police was a Sunday Mirror Journo...who thought he was acting suspiciously.....
Journo turned Miss Marple.....
Nicole
15-05-2007, 02:23 PM
It's good to report anything remotely suspicious, could lead to something along the line.
Not sure if its him, but I think its a bit weird how involved he wanted to get himself in the case.
It's good to report anything remotely suspicious, could lead to something along the line.
Not sure if its him, but I think its a bit weird how involved he wanted to get himself in the case.
Yes but then...what if he is proven innocent? His image and reputation has been forever tarnished as his name and face has been on every news channel and British newspaper, as Draven way back said, we have to be careful of not being drawn into a sensationalised tabloid witch hunt, and I am afraid in my opinion, as the desperation grows to find her, how many more innocent* people are going to be accused by British Journalists looking for a scoop
* Innocent until proven guilty
Nicole
15-05-2007, 02:31 PM
His face has been all over the tv? so what. If he's been proven innocent, they'll move on and his name won't have to be mentioned again. Nobodys gone on a witchhunt making claims about him, they've simply reported his name in addition to the fact he's an official suspect. That is all. Nobodys out to get him.
His face has been all over the tv? so what. If he's been proven innocent, they'll move on and his name won't have to be mentioned again. Nobodys gone on a witchhunt making claims about him, they've simply reported his name in addition to the fact he's an official suspect. That is all. Nobodys out to get him.
In the perfect world of course....
There is a certain stigma that will stick with him now forever...all for what, so that our media have a suspect to feed off, so that they can sell more papers and fill more air time by printing his picture and name, long before he was even formally announced as a suspect....
lafdugga
15-05-2007, 03:21 PM
He was acting stange though saying he had translate witness statments and had actually been in the parents appartment and the fact that he had a daughter exactly like Madeleine.
He was acting stange though saying he had translate witness statments and had actually been in the parents appartment and the fact that he had a daughter exactly like Madeleine.
From what I have read he was being used by the Police and Sky News as a translator, plus I dont see what him having a daughter the same age as Madeleine is such a problem....
Miss T
15-05-2007, 05:09 PM
From what I have read he was being used by the Police and Sky News as a translator, plus I dont see what him having a daughter the same age as Madeleine is such a problem....
Probably because if he is a pedofile then he might have lusted over his daughter since she was born but couldnt brign himself to do anything about it and when he saw a clone of her decided he could no longer resist. At a guess.
At the end of the day the police have to explore all avenues, it wouldn't be a thorough investigation if they didnt. If the guy has got nothing to do with the disappearance of Maddy then he'll eventually be eliminated as a suspect, and the police can focus their enquiries elsewhere.
Ashlynne
15-05-2007, 05:50 PM
My Prayers go out for the safe return of Madeline. Hope fully she will be found a live and well and the guys who did this will get put in jail where they belong.
Darkstar
15-05-2007, 05:54 PM
My Prayers go out for the safe return of Madeline. Hope fully she will be found a live and well and the guys who did this will get put in jail where they belong.
Or they could be spared jail and given community service.....thast what i would do.
Oh, its sad that everyone has said 'the men' or 'the guys' when it could ahve easily been a woman. :(
carlito is cool
15-05-2007, 06:01 PM
I can't help but think if this was a working class family that had gone down the pub for a pint they would get alot more stick from the media than 2 doctors. Anyone else share this thought?
However in saying that they must be going through hell and its an absolutely horrible situation they are in. My thoughts go out to them and i hope there daughter is returned safely.
Nicole
15-05-2007, 06:08 PM
Or they could be spared jail and given community service.....thast what i would do.
Oh, its sad that everyone has said 'the men' or 'the guys' when it could ahve easily been a woman. :(
Why would you give them community service for stealing a child?!?!
Nemesis Enforcer
15-05-2007, 06:08 PM
Police have a formal suspect, Robert Murat, who lives nearby. They don't have enough evidence to arrest anyone but they are very interested in what they have found and it warrented more inquires and interviews with the suspect
He has been very close to the investigation, hanging around the press and police trying to get his own info on Maddy and asking what the police know
Just said in a live press confrence from the Portugese Police
Darkstar
15-05-2007, 06:11 PM
Why would you give them community service for stealing a child?!?!
Dunno, I guess the open air and public places may be good for them. And while wearing the prison garb they would stand out from the crowd, a true fashion statement!
Miss T
15-05-2007, 06:16 PM
Dunno, I guess the open air and public places may be good for them. And while wearing the prison garb they would stand out from the crowd, a true fashion statement!
Are you taking the piss?!
Darkstar
15-05-2007, 06:23 PM
Are you taking the piss?!
*sighs*
What would happen to them if they went out in public? Even under guard? IF they are guilty then they wont be coming abck healthy will they?
*sighs*
What would happen to them if they went out in public? Even under guard? IF they are guilty then they wont be coming abck healthy will they?
It's ok, I got what you meant at least, even if some didn't. :xyx
Oh, its sad that everyone has said 'the men' or 'the guys' when it could ahve easily been a woman. :(Very very true!
Been released with lack of evidence...
Nemesis Enforcer
16-05-2007, 06:11 PM
Robert Murat's cousin has spoken on his behalf... she says
"He maintains he is totally totally innocent, can't sleep and is constantly pacing, he wants the attention taken off him fully and placed back on Madeline... its so wrong that people are focused on him just because he wanted so badly to help out and did so much to help and it was taken the wrong way"
The Crippler
16-05-2007, 06:20 PM
I feel bad for this man if he truely is innocent and there is nothing to suggest he isn't. I don't think the media have handled it very well. It is very much on the point that Draven was making about the media. I also hate it and the show he referred to is perfect at exposing the media when it comes to situations like this.
Too much focus has been on this man and it isn't fair on him and just as importantly, it takes the focus off the search for this wee girl because a lot of people have it in their mind now (largely due to the medias coverage of it) that this man is guilty and so the police have "got their man", so to speak.
Speaking of which..
The front page of The Daily Express is on par with the Daily Mail for being outstandingly OTT in its sensationalist coverage of the events.
http://www.express.co.uk/img/covers/257x330front/2007-05-16.gif
I laughed so hard when I saw it. Maybe I can buy a van, beehive my hair and call myself Myra Hindley.
Speaking of which..
The front page of The Daily Express is on par with the Daily Mail for being outstandingly OTT in its sensationalist coverage of the events.
http://www.express.co.uk/img/covers/257x330front/2007-05-16.gif
I laughed so hard when I saw it. Maybe I can buy a van, beehive my hair and call myself Myra Hindley.That is un-f*cking-believable. That could come to bite them hard.
Speaking of which..
The front page of The Daily Express is on par with the Daily Mail for being outstandingly OTT in its sensationalist coverage of the events.
http://www.express.co.uk/img/covers/257x330front/2007-05-16.gif
I laughed so hard when I saw it. Maybe I can buy a van, beehive my hair and call myself Myra Hindley.
Im going to start calling myself Mystic Meg.....
Yes but then...what if he is proven innocent? His image and reputation has been forever tarnished as his name and face has been on every news channel and British newspaper, as Draven way back said, we have to be careful of not being drawn into a sensationalised tabloid witch hunt, and I am afraid in my opinion, as the desperation grows to find her, how many more innocent* people are going to be accused by British Journalists looking for a scoop
* Innocent until proven guilty
Sadly, only a douche wouldn't have seen this coming.
To be fair if I have to wake up one more morning to see GMTV's "Search for Maddy" campaign once more, I think I'll go insane.
I hate when the media go all sentimental and start using abbreviated names for kids who go missing, just to try and tug on your heartstrings more and make it seem more personal. Its sick and makes a real life sad drama just totally trivialised.
It reminds me of James Bulger. Yes that's James Bulger not Jamie. His name was James at the time, yet whenever GMTV and the devil herself Fiona Phillips, or whatever dimwitted media representative talk about it, it's always "Jamie Bulger's horrific death". Disgusting.
I even watched the local news a few weeks back where the main story was how this girl had been killed while travelling in Africa in a bus accident. The story made out like the family were devastated and it was a real shock. And it was. 3 months ago when the thing frickin happened. They showed her gravestone, died February 2007. Thus this isn't news, but clearly it was a slow news day so they needed some sort of disaster grief to pad out the stories of church fetes and traffic offences in the area.
I can't watch news programmes anymore, cause then you watch Brass Eye or The Day Today, and realise their parodies are really not parodies, they are just the same show, except with the word "humour" written in a description.
I'm also a little pissed off by the groups on Facebook. I can't go an hour without someone joining the "Let's Find Maddy" group.
Reminds me of this, something Morris set up online. Made me laugh, but it's sadly so true... http://chilled.cream.org/morrismirrors/Tragibutes.htm
What pisses me off about it is the fact she's not the only kid who is missing at the moment. Where is all the press coverage for all the other children who have went missing, vanished off the face of the Earth? Some of them have been missing for years.
I feel sorry for the family, and hope she is returned safe and sound. But she is not the only child to be taken/go missing. Hell, she's not the only child to go missing this month alone.
Where is all the press coverage for all the other children who have went missing, vanished off the face of the Earth?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missing_white_girl_syndrome
Nicole
17-05-2007, 03:23 PM
Nah the worst thing about groups on facebook/bebo whatever, is that you are almost guilt tripped into joining the group, like joining a group is going to bring her back any quicker. Nobody can do anything other than the police and people involved in portugal.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missing_white_girl_syndromeCSI: Miami had an episode that focused on that situation. A middle-class white girl went missing at the same time as a poor Latino girl, but all the press coverage was devoted to the former, even though she had only ran off with her boyfriend in the end, and the Latino girl was murdered. It did a good job of showcasing the problems with it.
Chris Morris must smile everytime he is proven to have been correct with his Brass Eye special.
CSI: Miami had an episode that focused on that situation. A middle-class white girl went missing at the same time as a poor Latino girl, but all the press coverage was devoted to the former, even though she had only ran off with her boyfriend in the end, and the Latino girl was murdered. It did a good job of showcasing the problems with it.
Chris Morris must smile everytime he is proven to have been correct with his Brass Eye special.
I'd expect he's more pissed off to be proven correct. The point of his piece was to make people think about what they're doing, seeing and hearing rather than just to annoy a few members of the media.
I know had I done Brass Eye, I'd be especially aggrivated right now because nothing has changed.
Mr. Perfect
17-05-2007, 03:50 PM
My Mates girlfriend sent me a message saying something like "say a prayer for Maddy or you will go to hell for the rest of yours days and if you dont send this text on it proves you have no soul" i deleted the message without sending it on, text her saying how disgusted she makes me feel and how a stupid little text message can save a poor girls life, these myspace groups piss me off aswell.
The Crippler
17-05-2007, 03:52 PM
Yeah, its lame. Its people cashing in, so to speak, on it. Just to show other people that they are really nice and compassionate people. It's like those fake ribbon things you see on these sites as well saying "Put this on your page if you know anyone who has died of cancer.". Like no offense to anyone reading this who has done that but it's daft! Most people know someone that has died of cancer anyway and what is it going to achieve?
At least if you buy a ribbon or whatever then the money is going to something. A fake ribbon on a self-indulgent Bebo page or whatever (yes I do have one of these accounts myself but theyre still pretty self-indulgent) is just stupid and isn't helping anyone in anyway.
My Mates girlfriend sent me a message saying something like "say a prayer for Maddy or you will go to hell for the rest of yours days and if you dont send this text on it proves you have no soul" i deleted the message without sending it on, text her saying how disgusted she makes me feel and how a stupid little text message can save a poor girls life, these myspace groups piss me off aswell.Anyone who sends me anything along those lines on MySpace, etc, saying that you will have bad luck and the like if you ignore this, get deleted as soon as I read the comment. I have no time for it, no time at all.
My Mates girlfriend sent me a message saying something like "say a prayer for Maddy or you will go to hell for the rest of yours days and if you dont send this text on it proves you have no soul" i deleted the message without sending it on, text her saying how disgusted she makes me feel and how a stupid little text message can save a poor girls life, these myspace groups piss me off aswell.
I can't stand things like this, it sickens me.
Al Stevens
17-05-2007, 06:03 PM
My Mates girlfriend sent me a message saying something like "say a prayer for Maddy or you will go to hell for the rest of yours days and if you dont send this text on it proves you have no soul" i deleted the message without sending it on, text her saying how disgusted she makes me feel and how a stupid little text message can save a poor girls life, these myspace groups piss me off aswell.
Mr P i shale be seeing you in hell then :good222: :sad:
As harsh as this may sound untill they either find her alive or being dragged up from a habour or something sadly the media is going to carry one with this crap.
Nemesis Enforcer
17-05-2007, 06:11 PM
There was picures today in The Sun of the parents jogging on the beach taken yesterday... and they have said they will not leave Portugal until she is found
Now if I was very cynical I would say thay are using this to get a long free holiday in the sun...
A Russian guy was arrested and released by the Portugese cops today, he is a friend of that Robert Murat guy who was released a few days ago
I wouldn't be shocked if it ended up having something to do with the parents, but that's because I'm cynical.
Al Stevens
17-05-2007, 06:24 PM
Regardless what happends they should be treated like a normal bunch of parents if they never find her. Taken to court and have there other two children taken away for being bad parents.
I feel like a walking Chris Morris plug, but I only just found this online and it's incredibly topical and, let's face it, to the point.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkyYKDIC5wI
And if you don't *get it*, watch almost any press conference in these types of situations.
EDIT: Good....f**king....God! http://news.sky.com/skynews/video/videoplayer/0,,91210-1266128,00.html
That second video is farcical (?sp). It makes a joke out of a really sad situation.
The Crippler
17-05-2007, 07:16 PM
EDIT: Good....f**king....God! http://news.sky.com/skynews/video/videoplayer/0,,91210-1266128,00.html
Good god.
That is one of the tackiest things I've ever seen.
Bewildering.
Jung was right. It's almost a self-parody of itself now.
At least The Sun has it's priorities straight though...
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/6166/ihatethesunmf3.jpg
http://news.sky.com/skynews/video/videoplayer/0,,91210-1266128,00.htmlThis wouldn't look out of place in a Morris show. It really is scraping the barrel. It wouldn't surprise me to see a backlash forming from having it rammed down our throat in such a way.
Al Stevens
17-05-2007, 07:57 PM
I wont say whats on my mind because i know i would get a infraction for sure
OMAR DAYS
17-05-2007, 08:03 PM
Jung was right. It's almost a self-parody of itself now.
At least The Sun has it's priorities straight though...
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/6166/ihatethesunmf3.jpg
Pamela Yummy! :wub
Miss T
17-05-2007, 08:55 PM
I understand what you guys are saying etc but I cant help but feel uncomfortable when reading your comments. At the end of the day a little girl is missing and will probably never be found, If people want to put virtual ribbons on their myspace or join clubs on facebook to show their sympathy and show that they are thinking about "Maddy" then you should just let them get on with it.
Al Stevens
17-05-2007, 09:19 PM
Thats the thing i do let them get on with it because its there life. However today i got six messages off myspace saying "if you dont do this then you have no soul". My dislike for that is because they are having an attack on me as a person because i wont join.
I really hope that they find her, i really do. However if we look at the facts the police over there can only do so much can do. However as the weeks go on the chances they are going to find her is very slim.
Regardless what happends in the future the parents should have the other kids taken away because i would never leave my kids alone at that age anywhere because we dont know what people are like now a days in this day and age. However they wont because they are cival servents or whatever
Miss T
17-05-2007, 09:23 PM
Thats the thing i do let them get on with it because its there life. However today i got six messages off myspace saying "if you dont do this then you have no soul". My dislike for that is because they are having an attack on me as a person because i wont join.
I really hope that they find her, i really do. However if we look at the facts the police over there can only do so much can do. However as the weeks go on the chances they are going to find her is very slim.
Regardless what happends in the future the parents should have the other kids taken away because i would never leave my kids alone at that age anywhere because we dont know what people are like now a days in this day and age. However they wont because they are cival servents or whatever
Yeah but those individuals are idiots.
And they're bred by our pathetic society. To quote Nathan Barley, it's the rise of the idiots, and they're being fed by our tabloids and sensationalist media who install fear into us and the notion that we should care about what they select for us to the level that they antagonise us to do so, in order to maximise their own profits.
I can care about whether a little girl is found safe without every media outlet forcing down my throat how much I should care and how scared I should be of society when it's the media who have the power and are doing more to create anarchy than to halt it.
I understand what you guys are saying etc but I cant help but feel uncomfortable when reading your comments. At the end of the day a little girl is missing and will probably never be found, If people want to put virtual ribbons on their myspace or join clubs on facebook to show their sympathy and show that they are thinking about "Maddy" then you should just let them get on with it.As has been said, if they were just doing that and nothing else, then more power to them. But to say to anyone that you will go to Hell, have bad luck or that you have no soul...well, that's just wrong.
And, as bad as this sounds, how many of those actually care as much as they say they do? I'd wager that more than half of them are only doing it to seem "hip" to their friends.
Regardless what happends they should be treated like a normal bunch of parents if they never find her. Taken to court and have there other two children taken away for being bad parents.
What court.....?
Along the whole text/myspace thing, a poster appeared in work yesterday......
I checked to see if she is being hidden in an edit suite with little Dominic...but all is clear this end.....
Dave7g
18-05-2007, 03:05 PM
I'm tired of this now. The parents are idiots of the highest order. That little girl is most likely dead now and that's terrible of course but who's fault is it in all fairness?
It's the biggest story in the world right now is it? Is it ****!
It's the biggest story in the world right now is it? Is it ****!
You won't be saying that when Maddie's Law calls for a ban on Portugal being a country.
Nemesis Enforcer
18-05-2007, 06:03 PM
There has been a website made now that has had 25,000,000 hits in 1 days alone, The family have also started a chain e-mail that they hope will go around the world to keep people focused on the story and search
Credit: Yahoo
Has Britain gone overboard in the hunt for missing Madeleine?
LONDON (Reuters) - For two weeks, day in, day out, the British media have been obsessed with one story -- the disappearance from a Portuguese holiday resort of a 4-year-old girl called Madeleine.
Tabloid and broadsheet newspapers have plastered pictures of the blonde-haired, wide-eyed child on their front pages, and news channels have carried live updates several times every hour from the crime scene in southern Portugal.
But even as a Web site set up to track the saga announced it had received an astonishing 55 million hits, there was evidence that public opinion, while strongly supportive of the child's distraught parents Kate and Gerry McCann, was growing alarmed at what it viewed as relentless, almost prurient coverage.
"(It's) absurdly over the top and cannot have served the interests of the family or the eventual cause of justice," wrote commentator Simon Jenkins in the Guardian on Friday.
"To suggest that this might not be a good way of finding a missing child is clearly spitting in the wind ... Journalists may have cooked the McCann story to a burnt crisp."
Since the death of Princess Diana in 1997 provoked an outpouring of national grief, Britain has tended to get wrapped up in coverage of its own tragedies, particularly when they concern children.
The murder of two 10-year-old girls in the town of Soham in August 2002 produced weeks of wall-to-wall television.
But the disappearance of Madeleine McCann appears to have raised the term "blanket coverage" to a whole new level, prompting the dispatch of vast teams of reporters to the small town of Praia da Luz, where every scrap of information, whether fact or rumour, is picked over minutely.
Even when there has been no news to report, broadcasters and Web sites have kept the story rolling, throwing up the "breaking news" tag for even the smallest development.
Satellite broadcaster Sky ran a banner on Friday saying "Latest pictures of 'Team McCann' campaign headquarters", showing supporters of the family opening envelopes.
Footballers, politicians, pop stars and authors have all jumped into the fray, offering money to support the family's hunt for their daughter, opining about what may or may not have happened, and wondering if the Portuguese police made mistakes.
SATURATION POINT
"The danger is that the coverage becomes so saturated that it's counter-productive," Max Clifford, Britain's foremost public relations guru, told Reuters.
"It's not that people aren't sympathetic, it's just that they begin to get sick of it all when there's no new news."
Speaking on radio this week, Matthew Parris, a former politician and now a commentator for the Times newspaper, expressed disgust at the unseemly outpouring, particularly from politicians. Rather than criticism, he received praise.
"I actually believe the majority of people are sick of the media feeding frenzy and the 'jumping on of bandwagons' that has been witnessed in the last fortnight," Andy Jones, a member of the public from central England, wrote on a BBC Web site, one of nearly 300 to respond to Parris's comments.
"A little girl is missing -- very sad. I wonder if the media's perception of the whole case might be different if she wasn't white and from a very obviously white middle-class background."
In some instances, the press has actively driven the story, creating its own maelstrom of media mayhem. One man in Portugal became a suspect shortly after a British journalist called the police to report him as being suspicious.
"I would be very surprised if editors don't start to ease down a bit," said Clifford. "For several days we've had news bulletins that are basically telling us nothing. Eventually people don't like that."
I saw this interesting article on Yahoo that the good folk of TWO may be interested in
Nemesis Enforcer
18-05-2007, 06:31 PM
I really do agree with the article above, things have gone way overboard, but the family aren't trying to stop it either, rarther they are driving it forwards wit htheir relentless media conferences and stunts like the website and chain e-mails etc
I really do agree with the article above, things have gone way overboard, but the family aren't trying to stop it either, rarther they are driving it forwards wit htheir relentless media conferences and stunts like the website and chain e-mails etcI hate to say it, but it comes across as that they are revelling in the attention.
OMAR DAYS
19-05-2007, 01:38 PM
I'm sick and tired of this now. There is going to be a friggin' video of it during the FA Cup at half time FFS!
Nemesis Enforcer
19-05-2007, 03:00 PM
News update is...
A Norwegian woman says she is 99.9% sure she saw Madeline in Morroco but I can't remember when, possibly days ago
So expect another round of media coverage now thast there is some new 'leads' to go on
I'm sick and tired of this now. There is going to be a friggin' video of it during the FA Cup at half time FFS!I heard about this today. A two-minute video as well. When people die, they get a one-minute silence if they're lucky, yet this is permeating every possible way to get your attention.
News update is...
A Norwegian woman says she is 99.9% sure she saw Madeline in Morroco but I can't remember when, possibly days ago
So expect another round of media coverage now thast there is some new 'leads' to go onThe sad thing is, it could be someone just wanting attention, which in turn diverts the investigation (or at least part of it) from where it should be.
Burakiosaurus
19-05-2007, 07:29 PM
British Media:
hmm ... people are getting are getting mugged, raped and killed everyday, there is war going on in the world and threats of nuclear strikes .... but we'll just shelve that for the time being to print stories about a little blonde girl who is missing because her parents were stupid to leave her alone in her room
thats my very tonuge in cheek take on the matter. i hope she is found safe and sound like everyone else, but am sick of having it rammed down my throat every day (cue innuendo from some idiot)
There was a fantastic article about the hysteria in todays Guardian. If anyone can grab a copy of it somehow, I'd recommend it. Really good piece.
Burakiosaurus
19-05-2007, 08:20 PM
i should bloody well hope so, it's the best track on the album along with butterflies and hurricanes
i should bloody well hope so, it's the best track on the album along with butterflies and hurricanes
Def Leppard did it better.
Burakiosaurus
19-05-2007, 08:41 PM
nobody does it better
Sorry to go back to what seems like ages ago on this post now but I wasn't around to defend myself and thank you so very much to those who did, I'm exremely greatful.
To whatever the persons name was who thought I should have been more careful what the hell has it got to do with you? I do not ask you to support my children and I do not regret having them, I have led a full and happy life since having them, which would have been nothing more than drunk unrecognisable days after days my kids gave my life meaning and NO i have never ever put my children in any danger, I hate letting them go to their dads out of my sight.
I seriously think this thread went wrong some time ago as this was meant to be a prayer for Madeline. Not personal experiences Whitch hunts on YOUNG MUMS and anything else thats been said, come on guys as bad as they have done their little girl is missing lets just hope she's brought home safe.
xXx
Miss T
21-05-2007, 10:03 PM
Finally, a post that makes sense! :)
Burakiosaurus
21-05-2007, 11:18 PM
nothing makes sense anymore Ti Ti, nothing
Sorry to go back to what seems like ages ago on this post now but I wasn't around to defend myself and thank you so very much to those who did, I'm exremely greatful.
To whatever the persons name was who thought I should have been more careful what the hell has it got to do with you? I do not ask you to support my children and I do not regret having them, I have led a full and happy life since having them, which would have been nothing more than drunk unrecognisable days after days my kids gave my life meaning and NO i have never ever put my children in any danger, I hate letting them go to their dads out of my sight.
He got banned a few days ago so you're ok. He probably won't see this, unless he stalks you when you sleep.
I seriously think this thread went wrong some time ago as this was meant to be a prayer for Madeline. Not personal experiences Whitch hunts on YOUNG MUMS and anything else thats been said, come on guys as bad as they have done their little girl is missing lets just hope she's brought home safe.
I think everyone hopes she will be brought home safe (although it's doubtful). Everyone except for The Sun, The Mirror, The Daily Mail...
The Crippler
22-05-2007, 02:42 AM
Yeah, I'm not sure anyone has actually questioned the sentiment that it is hoped she returns safe. I don't particulary see the problem with a bit of healthy debate. I figured that was what a forum was for. You can go along with the initial sentiment of the thread whilst also raising other questions about the topic in hand. So I'm not quite sure where the thread has went wrong? I'm sure I will be enlightened, what with me not being a mother and all.
Let us not be blind to everything here. The tabloid papers have made celebrities out of Madeline, her parents and the so-called suspects. They are now creating spin off stories from these celebrities. You could say they are still keeping Madeline in the papers and in peoples thoughts but it is highly dubious behaviour.
Everyone would obviously like to see the wee girl return home safe (it pretty much goes without saying, to be honest) but that doesn't mean we should be blind to other more sinister goings on closer to home.
I just like that Miss T exclaims Taki's post as one that "finally makes sense", like she can't actually fathom the idea of media influence and how the actions of the tabloids may one day have a negative effect on future cases such as this due to creating a public backlash and spawning social apathy. Everything has to be so black and white with no in-between.
People can say "oh forget the media, just focus on that little girl", which is utter b*llocks and just playing into exactly what the media wants: pay your 50p for a paper and shut up, inhale our propaganda until you choke. Eventually, the UK just isn't going to care anymore (much like judging by overseas opinions on this story, which can't understand why this is such a big story).
And when little Jack goes missing next year, only for our fellow natives to turn their backs and scoff, one little life that could have been saved will become a mere statistic never to be found. I only hope Rebekah Wade can sleep at night knowing she's the one to blame. Stupid cow.
dpddave
22-05-2007, 03:23 AM
A bright little ray of sunshine arent you..
Should I have been anything else?
Darkstar
22-05-2007, 07:27 AM
And when little Jack goes missing next year.
You make it sound like you have already made the plans. :lol
Miss T
22-05-2007, 10:11 AM
I just like that Miss T exclaims Taki's post as one that "finally makes sense", like she can't actually fathom the idea of media influence and how the actions of the tabloids may one day have a negative effect on future cases such as this due to creating a public backlash and spawning social apathy. Everything has to be so black and white with no in-between.
People can say "oh forget the media, just focus on that little girl", which is utter b*llocks and just playing into exactly what the media wants: pay your 50p for a paper and shut up, inhale our propaganda until you choke. Eventually, the UK just isn't going to care anymore (much like judging by overseas opinions on this story, which can't understand why this is such a big story).
And when little Jack goes missing next year, only for our fellow natives to turn their backs and scoff, one little life that could have been saved will become a mere statistic never to be found. I only hope Rebekah Wade can sleep at night knowing she's the one to blame. Stupid cow.
Draven you act as if I'm completely ignorant to the tabloids exploitation of this story. I know what they're doing, but I just ignore it as I dont buy their bloody papers!!
To be fair its impossible to get away from it. TV, Radio, newspapers, magazines, Internet whatever have all gone mental over the story, doing things which have no point other than making them "seem" caring.
They clearly have an idea to have something Maddy related each day, regardless of whether anything has happened or not.
Everyone wants her to be safe but at the same time the overboard type of coverage its getting, means backlash. Anyone rememebr Ken Bigley? Now I don't like Billy Connolly but he summed up, in a really horrible way, what some may have been thinking by saying "why can't they hurry up and cut his head off yet?" Harsh? absolutely, but what he's trying to say is, at least it will be an end to this non-stop madness of covering nothing.
A child kidnapping is horrible, but there are thousands of more news items which are far serious, newsworthy and most of all topical. Nobody wishes anything bad on her, or on Ken Bigley back then. Connolly got rapped for what he said, yet like with Brass Eye, people missed the point of his comment. He didn't want him dead, just the media to give it a rest going schizo over nothing happening.
You know what the worst thing about this Maddy thing is? Alan Johnson is still missing in Gaza after like 6 weeks. Yet there is barely anything written about him, despite the fact he's probably been tortured or brutally murdered. But no-one in the media cares anymore, cause something new came along which was far more attractive. Hey if a 2 your old blonde gets kidnapped in the next few days, watch the newstories flood away from Madeleine without a care in the world.
We care about her as a person, the media care about her as a story, which is why I think virtually anything judged to be harsh, said by anyone here, is probably entirely justifiable.
Draven you act as if I'm completely ignorant to the tabloids exploitation of this story. I know what they're doing, but I just ignore it as I dont buy their bloody papers!!
And no one here is a friend or relative to Madeleine, but we're still expressing a desire for her to be returned safely...
And no one here is a friend or relative to Madeleine, but we're still expressing a desire for her to be returned safely...
Wouldnt anybody want a young girl returned safe?
I dont need a newspaper to tell me when or where I can feel genuine concern for a 3 year old missing girl....
Your an intelligent bloke Drav...but give us others some credit..not all of us need a Tabloid newspaper to jump on a bandwagon to feel concern....
Wouldnt anybody want a young girl returned safe?
I dont need a newspaper to tell me when or where I can feel genuine concern for a 3 year old missing girl....
Your an intelligent bloke Drav...but give us others some credit..not all of us need a Tabloid newspaper to jump on a bandwagon to feel concern....
Well done for missing the point.
If I put yours and Miss.T's posts together, I conclude that I can feel for a little girl I don't know without reading a newspaper, but I shouldn't care about the dangerous effect that the media coverage may have because I don't buy their newspaper.
Now you tell me if that makes sense. Actually, don't. I'll tell you: it doesn't.
Well done for missing the point.
If I put yours and Miss.T's posts together, I conclude that I can feel for a little girl I don't know without reading a newspaper, but I shouldn't care about the dangerous effect that the media coverage may have because I don't buy their newspaper.
Now you tell me if that makes sense. Actually, don't. I'll tell you: it doesn't.
I actually didnt 'miss the point' I just think it is a little naive to suggest that as an individual we shouldnt care as much, or even care at all just because we are not in the parameters of her close family and gain information from the media...
Hell I havent been subjected to the imagined hype created back home (Of which i am glad because I would have probably gone nuts) by the red tops, but I still hope for her safe return...is that so wrong? or should I be worried that I have been gripped by tabloid hysteria? Because I feel educated enough to decipher what is reported as news for the geuine sake of doing good...and Hype for the sake of selling papaers...
I think everyone hopes she will be brought home safe (although it's doubtful). Everyone except for The Sun, The Mirror, The Daily Mail...As much as it scares me that Mitch and I have agreed on so much in this thread, I have to also agree with this.
There is little worth to the press in good news, but there is plenty in bad news. The media will have a field day if she is not returned safely, as they can go into the whole "memorial" phase, look at where things went wrong, bring it up every year for an "anniversary memorial", and so on and so on.
If she is (as I hope) returned safe, the story dies....and that doesn't sell papers.
As much as it scares me that Mitch and I have agreed on so much in this thread, I have to also agree with this.
There is little worth to the press in good news, but there is plenty in bad news. The media will have a field day if she is not returned safely, as they can go into the whole "memorial" phase, look at where things went wrong, bring it up every year for an "anniversary memorial", and so on and so on.
If she is (as I hope) returned safe, the story dies....and that doesn't sell papers.
No for all the above...I am in full agreement too....
It was only after 9/11 that Sky News became the Ultra Americanised Fox Clone piece of Dog S**t it is now...
In the wake of such sensationalism, it wrecked what used to be a good news channel...
I actually didnt 'miss the point' I just think it is a little naive to suggest that as an individual we shouldnt care as much, or even care at all just because we are not in the parameters of her close family and gain information from the media...
You obviously HAVE missed the point. I never said we can't care about her return. My point was that it's stupid to say we should care about someone we don't know yet not be concerned about the effects of a medium we may not read. It's hypocrisy, pure and simple.
Doesn't mean we HAVE to care about anything. But it's silly to suggest that caring about the media is such a bad thing when it's the most powerful tool in our everyday lives.
I don't care if Miss.T cares about newspapers or not. But her posts suggested we were wrong to focus an attack on the media, which is a stupid argument.
Al Stevens
22-05-2007, 02:11 PM
Right i can understand where MG and Miss T is coming from as a human we should feel sorry for a missing child because it could be some part of a parental part of our brain telling us that it "Could be one of ours" and the first thought of them getting back safe is always strong at first.
However we dont live in pleasentville and we know that with every day with out her being found is leaving lesser and lesser chance of her being found alive (call me a beacon of 'hope' if you want but its true).
But now i can understand where Draven and a few others are going as well in the sence that the English print based media, the dirt sheets so to speak (sun mirror ect) got wind of the story and are refusing to let it go like a dog with a bone. Lets face it there could be world war 3 about to start and they wouldnt report it due to the fact some little kid has been taken (either by parental mistake or just snatched).
As Jung said there is a report in the middle east which has been kidnaped, probaly dead but that's not "Gripping news". Those papers always print one story which leads to a propergander style reporting (if i remember rightly when they printed pictures of all the known Pediofiles in the UK).
The fact is though, I am fully aware of the medium of Print Media and the exploitation and sensationalism associated with getting people to buy papers, And I am in full agreement that the only people who would be happy for her not to return is the editors of the newspapers Draven highlighted.
My only problem was the notion that, We are all so emotionally drunk on the hysteria created by the media, that we cant form our own opinion without the thirst for more...
Way back in this thread...I said this
Yes but then...what if he is proven innocent? His image and reputation has been forever tarnished as his name and face has been on every news channel and British newspaper, as Draven way back said, we have to be careful of not being drawn into a sensationalised tabloid witch hunt, and I am afraid in my opinion, as the desperation grows to find her, how many more innocent* people are going to be accused by British Journalists looking for a scoop, There is a certain stigma that will stick with him now forever...all for what, so that our media have a suspect to feed off, so that they can sell more papers and fill more air time by printing his picture and name, long before he was even formally announced as a suspect....
* Innocent until proven guilty
And still today, articles appear even though there was no evidence against him.....
Now I am not saying that there arent the impressionable out there, who have been carried along in the hype created by The Red Tops in this country, but there are some who can take a step back and take a story on its merits,
I care for the girl, whether I know her or not, What I care less for is the outpouring towards the parents, Or the linking of Murat to Huntley that has been whipped up wrongly by the papers
Right i can understand where MG and Miss T is coming from as a human we should feel sorry for a missing child because it could be some part of a parental part of our brain telling us that it "Could be one of ours" and the first thought of them getting back safe is always strong at first.
However we dont live in pleasentville and we know that with every day with out her being found is leaving lesser and lesser chance of her being found alive (call me a beacon of 'hope' if you want but its true).
But now i can understand where Draven and a few others are going as well in the sence that the English print based media, the dirt sheets so to speak (sun mirror ect) got wind of the story and are refusing to let it go like a dog with a bone. Lets face it there could be world war 3 about to start and they wouldnt report it due to the fact some little kid has been taken (either by parental mistake or just snatched).
As Jung said there is a report in the middle east which has been kidnaped, probaly dead but that's not "Gripping news". Those papers always print one story which leads to a propergander style reporting (if i remember rightly when they printed pictures of all the known Pediofiles in the UK).
I think what Drav is going on about, people are still not getting.
He's not having a go at you for feeling sorry for someone, nor not understanding for why you feel sorry for them, its a case of newspapers playing on those human emotions so ridiculously much that facts almost becomes irrelevant. Thus you are almost driven to feel a certain way, and if you don't feel that way, then its unacceptable.
Its that constant stream of deliberate heart wrenching that makes actual sad stories seem phoney, forced and undermined. A child has been snatched, thats all you need to know. Yet now paedophile stories come out, links to Ian Huntley, links to child rape, etc etc which all come out, yet factually have absolutely nothing to do with the story except trivialise it. Thats why Drav, DC etc get annoyed about, its not people being sad or having a go at them being sad. Its the fact the media will sensationalise the story and anything the slightest bit related to it, to make as much fuss and headlines as possible.
If she turns up safe tomorrow or turns up dead, the whole story in years to come will be remembered in virtually fictional fashion. Basically I'm sure Drav's main worry is the fact that the reporting of news has nothing to do with facts, and everything to do with conjecture and headline grabbing. Thats why so many reporters are out there. Half of them couldnt give a toss about whats actually happening. After all Ian Huntley copycat paedo murder sounds far better than girl got lost no?
Omega
22-05-2007, 02:43 PM
give another 2 weeks and the papers will be onto something else. If it weren't so Ben Needham would still be front page news....
Thank you, Jung.
The fact that people are still replying to me with "we can feel sorry for her on our own accord" means that they are still missing my point by a country mile.
If it makes it easier for anyone, approach my post knowing that I do feel sorry for the girl. Then get back to me.
Just on another note....
Does anyone find it strange that 2 weeks later, and there has not been one sighting or piece of evidence with regards to her disappearance?
The worst part also is that there is every chance she could just be lost like down a hole or a ravine. I mean there's as much evidence that that could have happened, as there is of her being abducted by a paedophile.
Burakiosaurus
22-05-2007, 07:46 PM
you all disgust me, posting absoloute dog shite when you should be on the first flight out to Portugal and searching day and night for that little girl. disgusted I say, disgusted.
you all disgust me, posting absoloute dog shite when you should be on the first flight out to Portugal and searching day and night for that little girl. disgusted I say, disgusted.What if you already live in Portugal? I don't, but I'm sure someone does.
Burakiosaurus
22-05-2007, 08:21 PM
they disgust me as well
Miss T
22-05-2007, 11:39 PM
I think what Drav is going on about, people are still not getting.
He's not having a go at you for feeling sorry for someone, nor not understanding for why you feel sorry for them, its a case of newspapers playing on those human emotions so ridiculously much that facts almost becomes irrelevant. Thus you are almost driven to feel a certain way, and if you don't feel that way, then its unacceptable.
I understand but I feel the same as I did the second I heard about this, before any media frenzy.
I didn't even read that part of Jung's post properly. But yeah, it's partially wrong. I wasn't saying that the newspapers tug on peoples emotions. Of course they DO, but that wasn't my point. My point was basically picking on your hypocrisy of suggesting we should feel sorry for a girl we don't know and not worry about a paper we may not read, which is a stupid thing to suggest.
Miss T
23-05-2007, 09:32 AM
To be fair, I didnt say "OH NO ONE SHOULD CARE ABOUT TABLOID BULLSH*T" I said that in this case I just simply dont care because a child is missing and thats what matters to me. I dont read those papers and when I do get a glance of the front covers etc. I just think they're exploiting a story/situation which they do everyday!!
I also understand that there are probably hundreds of missing children over the world and that I am not aware of these cases but if I was then I would be sad for them too :(
I guess when it comes down to it I think it's pretty heartless if someone couldnt for sorry for any child that gets abducted/goes missing/falls down a hole or whatever, just dont think its very nice.. Thats all, I dont think that makes me a hypocrite?
I don't think hypocrisy, its just a case of media making out we should feel sorry for her more than say Alan Johnson? Why? Because one is a cute little girl which can sell them papers, bring in TV ratings etc etc.
Its not people being heartless not feeling sorry for them, surely its people asking the question "why should I feel more sorry for this girl, than someone else your not bothering to give news about?". They aren't heartless at all, its a case of people asking why this one story deserves so much more attention than anything else, thats the point I was originally getting at.
Your not a hypocrite, but we aren't being heartless, just kind of logical about it.
To be fair, I didnt say "OH NO ONE SHOULD CARE ABOUT TABLOID BULLSH*T"
And I paraphrase: "Finally, a post that makes sense" - insinuating that everything until Taki's post was nonsensical. Which is nonsense.
Miss T
23-05-2007, 10:50 AM
And I paraphrase: "Finally, a post that makes sense" - insinuating that everything until Taki's post was nonsensical. Which is nonsense.
I was actually talking specifically about Taki's posts as usually I disagree with/dont understand her posts.
I read (on the news I get on my phone) that the parents went to Fatima "on a pilgrimage", and that they will be going on a European tour to arrange awareness for their plight.
Nemesis Enforcer
23-05-2007, 01:57 PM
Eastenders and Corrie have both scrapped Baby-snatch storylines because they fear it will 'upset people because of the plight of Madeline McCann'
Eastenders had already filmed their storyline and are now spending laods to quikly re-write it and film the new plot
Eastenders and Corrie have both scrapped Baby-snatch storylines because they fear it will 'upset people because of the plight of Madeline McCann'
Eastenders had already filmed their storyline and are now spending laods to quikly re-write it and film the new plotIt would be funny if it wasn't so tragic. So what they both are basically saying is that if this girl wasn't kidnapped, they would have run the storyline(s) as planned. What about upsetting those who have had people kidnapped/go missing before now? Do they not count when it comes to "not upsetting people"?
Nemesis Enforcer
23-05-2007, 02:40 PM
It would be funny if it wasn't so tragic. So what they both are basically saying is that if this girl wasn't kidnapped, they would have run the storyline(s) as planned. What about upsetting those who have had people kidnapped/go missing before now? Do they not count when it comes to "not upsetting people"?
They don't count I guess, or more accuratly they don't get as much attention so don't matter
This is the story (from Yahoo who got it from BBC News)
A storyline about a missing baby in BBC soap EastEnders is being rewritten because of similarities with the Madeleine McCann case in Portugal.
The plot was due to revolve around Kara Tointon's character Dawn Swann, who is currently pregnant in the programme.
"It was felt any storyline that included child abduction would be inappropriate and could cause distress to our viewers," a spokeswoman said.
Coronation Street also changed a story following Madeleine's disappearance.
The four-year-old from Rothley, Leicestershire, went missing in the Algarve on 3 May.
Love triangle
EastEnders said its story would undergo a "substantial rewrite" before it was broadcast over the summer.
The scenes involve Swann, her lover Rob Minter, played by Stuart Laing, and his wife Dr May Wright, played by Amanda Drew.
In the show, the trio are caught in a love triangle. Minter left his wife last December after she attempted to buy Swann's unborn baby.
Coronation Street's story about a kidnapped child is currently on air, but has been significantly scaled back.
'Disturbing similarities'
Scenes from forthcoming episodes were due to feature the child's mother, Claire Peacock, at press conferences clutching her baby's teddy and handing out photos of her son, Freddie.
A Coronation Street spokeswoman said: "There were some quite disturbing similarities to the situation in Portugal and we didn't want to add to the torment of Madeleine's parents."
A number of UK law enforcement agencies are helping the Portuguese authorities in their search for the four-year-old girl.
Portuguese police have also confirmed they are investigating claims of a possible sighting of Madeleine in Morocco.
Things is the whole 'kidnap' theory has been created by the Media....Isnt another line of enquiry that she could have fallen down roadworks etc...
Nemesis Enforcer
23-05-2007, 03:30 PM
Things is the whole 'kidnap' theory has been created by the Media....Isnt another line of enquiry that she could have fallen down roadworks etc...
I know someone in this thread said that there was just as much evidence that she did fall down a well as get kidnapped...
Don't think its an official line of enquiry yet though but you never know :lol
Darkstar
23-05-2007, 05:37 PM
I thought that CCTV showed her at a supermarket? Is that just rumour #167965748678932?
Edit:
The Police found no evidence of forced entry to the Apartment, although that dosen't mean there was an abduction from the Apartment.
The Police sniffer dogs traced Madeleines scent to a Supermarket around the corner.
Police (both here and in Portugal) think the child wandered out from the Apartment to the Supermarket around the corner,where she was then taken, probably by a paedophile who made the most of the oppourtunity.
I thought that CCTV showed her at a supermarket? Is that just rumour #167965748678932?
Quote:
The Police found no evidence of forced entry to the Apartment, although that dosen't mean there was an abduction from the Apartment.
The Police sniffer dogs traced Madeleines scent to a Supermarket around the corner.
Police (both here and in Portugal) think the child wandered out from the Apartment to the Supermarket around the corner,where she was then taken, probably by a paedophile who made the most of the oppourtunity.
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So technically...she could still be wandering missing...or have fallen....