TWO Most interesting, cringey, real-life-meets-TWO moments.

[Omega]

This is probably one for the longer term members but anyways...

Because I'm bored I've been flicking through the general chat threads from it's very begining and found a couple of fairly juicy threads that had been closed. Mostly they were things about people storming off or claiming things against other people or outing peoples secrets etc..

It was quite addictive! Like rediscovering an old soap opera but not having seen the first few episodes so you don't quite know who everyone is!

So, what are the stand out, thread-closing, flame posting, toys out of the pram, full on F5 arguement moments from TWO's past? The "incidents" that are part of the fabric of TWO, such as RM's fake death or Tanya the not so lesbian.

Spill the beans you guys! Perhaps you can explain some of the more shrouded moments?

[Darkstar]

Ooooh, this has potential to go badly wrong......

[Omega]

true, actually I hadn't really thought about that part of it given that people are likely still to be here and might not like old stuff rementioned.....

Well I'll bow to any decision to delete the thread before it starts if so decided...

EDIT: On a side note it was interesting to see how many times I found a post by M1tchell in there! Proper little stirer.... ;)

[K.J]

I think I'm gonna check back later and see how this develops.

[Burakiosaurus]

i seem to remember one about Israel and Palestine a while back getting quite heated and then being shut down

[John Hancock]

i seem to remember one about Israel and Palestine a while back getting quite heated and then being shut down

I remember something like that nearly happening in the "Terrorism" thread. I'm not too sure what went on, because alot of people's comments got deleted before I could read them, leading to very odd reading.

[Burakiosaurus]

i think one of the members of the board was based over there, can't remember if they were pro-Israel or pro- Palestine, just remember it getting quite heated and every post being about 3-4 paragraphs long so i stopped reading in the end and read Penny Arcade instead

[TMJ]

EDIT: On a side note it was interesting to see how many times I found a post by M1tchell in there! Proper little stirer.... ;)
You know I used to be admin, right? Half the time, I had to be involved. Although truth be told, I was in a hell of a lot more arguments as admin than at any other time on TWO. I used to be on fire :)

As for great moments, The Gang were fun. Tanya the lesbian was fun. Jess and the three-man band was a little too much, but I bet an outsider would have loved it.

On a personal note, I had a lot of "heat" with Goldy and her little band of w*nkers too because we used to have phone sex and I implied (admittedly I wored it real badly and didn't really think about what I was writing) that we slept together when I really meant a certain non-meeting incident. Her boyfriend didn't believe me but that was his problem. I say his problem, but almost everyone came out of the woodwork to attack me. Even people I don't actually know. And Pabster, who is a two-faced jerkbag. Hopefully they all have cancer or their parents have been hit by buses. Anyway, I actually became friends with her after that through meeting at FCW, but then we never spoke and the last time she was on TWO, she just talked a load of crap and luckily she was gone the next day. So yeah...

I also enjoyed the unravelling of "RX". 1) because they were so far up their own arses in believing they actually meant something more than a group of guys trying to gain power and undermine others on a message board that it was really funny to observe, and 2) because MachoMat was a stupid piece of s**t and I hope his God laughs in his face come judgement day and sends him to hell.

Other than that... yeah, loads.

Truth be told, a lot of the fun happened in the mod forum. That place was fantastic for Fill trying to suck Kam off to get more power and watching him fail. And boy did he unravel.

And my personal favourite - the Ravenmark reveal. I still remember when I MSNed Kam about it being weird and suddenly finding myself in a Conference with 2 other mods who all thought the same thing. The consequent thread was amazing and I wish Kam would HoF it because it was far more interesting, IMO, than the subsequent thread I wrote in General chat where it all became public.

I can remember loads but those are the few stand-outs.

[DC]

i seem to remember one about Israel and Palestine a while back getting quite heated and then being shut down

i think one of the members of the board was based over there, can't remember if they were pro-Israel or pro- Palestine, just remember it getting quite heated and every post being about 3-4 paragraphs long so i stopped reading in the end and read Penny Arcade insteadThat was Han, who was based there and had the fighting going on around him.Hopefully they all have cancer.I really hope this is a joke considering the scare you had in the past and the fact that I've been there and done that.

As for myself, I seem to remember the time I got together with Darkstar's sister and the fallout from that being a bit heated at times.

[TMJ]

I really hope this is a joke considering the scare you had in the past and the fact that I've been there and done that.
It was tongue in cheek, although I wouldn't really care if they had it or not.

If New Jack can get away with it, so can I :)

[DC]

It was tongue in cheek, although I wouldn't really care if they had it or not.I guess it depends which kind. Cancer of the arse perhaps.

[TMJ]

I guess it depends which kind. Cancer of the arse perhaps.
Or the fingers, so that they can't type on internet forums anymore :)

Hey, can we throw in you and Vikki to this thread? Not in depth for obvious reasons, but I remember you quit here one night after something said in the chatroom. Or something. I think this was after you "declared your love" for her? My memory is sketchy but when you went out, I remember someone quitting over something. Or am I going insane?

[dpddave]

I spent a while going through some of the old threads a couple of months ago. RavenMark dying was fun.

[Inno]

I still maintain Holmes vs. Moriarty was my finest moment.

[Spiritchaser]

Man, I loved some of those arguments and when I think about them now, I have to laugh, absolute stupidity for the most part, well on my part anyway.
I've always been that way I enjoy the debates, the FU I'm right and your not kind of thing, what I found most interesting was if you were to argue with me in a real world scenario I'd probably laugh and get on with my work.
I'm not going to go into the whole RX thing it's old and stale, but it was fun while it lasted. Pushing buttons and watching reactions is so old to me now.
I can't see the point anymore, opinions are opinions, there are no facts just best guesses, but if you tell me I'm wrong I'll still say I'm right.
I think it was a lot of jostling for respect and having your opinion respected, and a lot of huff and puff bull****.
Anyway I'm leaving now you've all bored me except The Bongo because well he's Inno.

[Inno]

Psycho Babble Bullshit :D

Sorry dude! ;)

[BRM]

I think Amanda V at one time was going to sued every single member of this site.

Blame Inno for bringing her along :D

The Latland Vs Russ World feud was rather amusing, but very cringeworthy.

[Inno]

She was here LOOOONG before me.

Blame me for getting rid of her, I fired her as a Smash writer as soon as I was given the editors job!

Shout outs to y'all!

[DC]

Or the fingers, so that they can't type on internet forums anymore :)

Hey, can we throw in you and Vikki to this thread? Not in depth for obvious reasons, but I remember you quit here one night after something said in the chatroom. Or something. I think this was after you "declared your love" for her? My memory is sketchy but when you went out, I remember someone quitting over something. Or am I going insane?I didn't quit, but I did limit my time on here (which wasn't a shock since I moved house and had no immediate access to the forum for a while). There was a time where it got quite heated, and the whole "the meet-ups are an excuse to f*ck each other* mindset was born.

It really is hilarious when you look back on it.

[Darkstar]

The only person I had sex with at a TWOmeet was Gemma. Oh, and Inno natch.

[Fidel Cashflow]

The only person I had sex with at a TWOmeet was Gemma. Oh, and Inno natch.

Likewise.

[Wolverine]

Greenberg for the Hall of Fame.

[Christof]

Greenberg for the Hall of Fame.

Had to program a user "Bob Greenberg" onto a phone system recently, gave me a chuckle.

[HSM]

Sometimes I think about the times where my entire personal life got plastered all over this forum in various controversial ways.

Then I just shake my head and laugh about how stupidly naive I was.

Now I'm just a lot older and read other people arguing rather than arguing myself, its much more fun.

[Inno]

The only person I had sex with at a TWOmeet was Gemma. Oh, and Inno natch.

You were crap. Like trying to play snooker with a bit of wet rope, it was.

[Omega]

I didn't quit, but I did limit my time on here (which wasn't a shock since I moved house and had no immediate access to the forum for a while). There was a time where it got quite heated, and the whole "the meet-ups are an excuse to f*ck each other* mindset was born.

It really is hilarious when you look back on it.

Funny really as that was the thread that made me put this thread up. It's an amazing read and is a real window to a TWO gone past! What was the whole RX thing, I've seen a couple of mentions to it in other threads and saw the MachoMat signature and wondered about it?

This is so exciting, its like meeting up with family you never met and finding out they all have shady pasts! I want a shady past too!! :(

[Ray]

If you read back through all of TWO's dirty history, you simply learn that we're all a bunch of degenerates. :lol

[Wolverine]

Everyone should go back and look at the old Drogba debates. It was pretty much me vs. the entire posting population of Other Sports. I was the only one who thought he was any good. I'd like to take the opportunity now to stick it to Jung, Ray, Proudy and all the other Drogba haterz and say 'I told you so, peasants'. Ha and indeed, ha.

[Ray]

Everyone should go back and look at the old Drogba debates. It was pretty much me vs. the entire posting population of Other Sports. I was the only one who thought he was any good. I'd like to take the opportunity now to stick it to Jung, Ray, Proudy and all the other Drogba haterz and say 'I told you so, peasants'. Ha and indeed, ha.

What's this? I don't ever remember hating Drogba, ever. Ever... :terminato

[Omega]

If you read back through all of TWO's dirty history, you simply learn that we're all a bunch of degenerates. :lol

says he who joined 4 months before me.... what a 4 months they must have been! :)

[Saz]

The one that stuck in my mind was when I think the whole of TWO had had enough of a girl called Kate and her extension of the truth. She got a little riled as Mitch had claimed that she had gotten herself pregnant from the boogey man. it's in the hall of fame, read it!

I remember the whole RX thing and the usual crowd getting upset by it, instead of going "meh" and letting itself die out as a mutual Masturb@tion group.

I remember when nicole thought sex was a bad thing, until she discovered sex!

I remember when mitch wouldn't drink, until he discovered alcohol.

I remember blinking repeatedly when I found out that Sunflower had been bonking half the male members of TWO.

Plus that bl**dy gopher! Has been around as long as me!

[BRM]

I've never slept with any members of TWO!

[Jimmy Redman]

Your loss.



Well, not that I've slept with anyone on here either. I havent even slept with anyone in my own hemisphere!

[DC]

I remember blinking repeatedly when I found out that Sunflower had been bonking half the male members of TWO.There was the infamous "tit out" picture that did the rounds (with hint of pubic region if memory serves).

She was a bit mental was Sunflower. Spoke to her on the phone a few times.


I had a read through the "An Announcement" thread, and there seems to have been some posts deleted, but it really is a funny read. The perils of a youthful life.:lol

[SimonJamesJones]

She was a bit mental was Sunflower. Spoke to her on the phone a few times. so did i, met her too a couple of times, and i wasnt even a member of the forums back then. weird, psycho, married, alcoholic, bored housewife, nutter. spoke to her hubby on the phone once too after he called up my number and threatened to do bad things to me. he was a lot less scary then her though so it was all good

to the best of my knowledge, or at least what she insists, she never actually bonked anyone from TWO, she just pretended and spouted a lot of crap leading people on.

if anyone here actually did screw Sunflower, speak up now ;)

[Saz]

No one's going toadmit it now are they? :)

Go on AC...

[SimonJamesJones]

why not? I'd admit it if I had ;)

there were all sorts of rumours though, at various times she bragged to me about Mitchell, Verb, Jayden, DC, Darkstar, Beltmark, Ravenmark, which bearing in mind Mitchell must have been about 16 at the time was kinda bizarre. I'm guessing none of those were actually true from what she later said, and what Mitchell had said to me?

[dpddave]

What is this whole RX thing and is the thread in the Hall Of Fame????

[Fidel Cashflow]

Your loss.



Well, not that I've slept with anyone on here either. I havent even slept with anyone in my own hemisphere!

But what a time we had in Peru.

[Slim Jim]

Which would be the same hemisphere...

[TMJ]

why not? I'd admit it if I had ;)

there were all sorts of rumours though, at various times she bragged to me about Mitchell, Verb, Jayden, DC, Darkstar, Beltmark, Ravenmark, which bearing in mind Mitchell must have been about 16 at the time was kinda bizarre. I'm guessing none of those were actually true from what she later said, and what Mitchell had said to me?
She basically told me she'd "fallen in love" with me after some debate on the forum where Inno and I were debating (and defeated, I may add ;)) Spirit and her. I know I won because Sunflower conceded and told me that I had turned her on and that she wanted to screw me.

I win most of my arguments this way. Should have seen the ones me and Craig have.

[SimonJamesJones]

I gave him rep for that too :(

EDIT: rep for the joke, not for Mitchell turning Sunflower on with his internet debating skills

[Fidel Cashflow]

Which would be the same hemisphere...

SSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

I realized that not long after.

[The Beltster]

why not? I'd admit it if I had ;)

there were all sorts of rumours though, at various times she bragged to me about Mitchell, Verb, Jayden, DC, Darkstar, Beltmark, Ravenmark, which bearing in mind Mitchell must have been about 16 at the time was kinda bizarre. I'm guessing none of those were actually true from what she later said, and what Mitchell had said to me?Dunno why she would mention me, I've never even heard of her until this thread :lol

[Inno]

The gopher owns all of you.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y172/TheInno/GopherFacts.gif

[Darkstar]

why not? I'd admit it if I had ;)

there were all sorts of rumours though, at various times she bragged to me about Mitchell, Verb, Jayden, DC, Darkstar, Beltmark, Ravenmark, which bearing in mind Mitchell must have been about 16 at the time was kinda bizarre. I'm guessing none of those were actually true from what she later said, and what Mitchell had said to me?

I havent even met her! We spoke on the phone once but thats all. :lol

Dunno why she would mention me, I've never even heard of her until this thread :lol

You liar! this thread (http://www.talkwrestlingonline.com/forum/showthread.php?t=27389) in the Champagne room says otherwise. :lol

[The Beltster]

I dont have access to that room anymore, and I can 100% honestly say I have no idea who she is. If I've spoken with her, it must have been a couple years ago, the screen name doesnt even sound familiar.

[Darkstar]

It was the thread you said:

I'd be willing to bet 90% of internet users have nude pics of themselves somewhere, whether it be on their computer or some perved up website.


Dont you remember? :P

[The Beltster]

Nope, dont remember it. Must have been ages ago.

[Darkstar]

Ah well, I wont tell you where the thread went from there then. :P

[The Beltster]

If it includes naked pics of this chick that might jog my memory, feel free to PM me.

[Omega]

Well if that isn't enough of an incitement to get people to subscribe.... :D

So really, RX what was that all about?

[Darkstar]

Well, from my point of view it goes as follows:

there was a jokey thread about gang warfare or somesuch. 2 'stables' were created 'The Triad' which was Gringo, Maxx and The Manager, and 'Regeneration X' which was Boyo, myself, Spiritchaser, Machomat and......someone else. We had a jokey war between us which eventually got the thread locked. fair does and all that.

However the people in RX made a introduction thread that went down like a fart in a lift. I saw it as light hearted comedy (admittedly in retrospect a bad idea as well :P) but others saw it as an attempt to undermine Kam. RX 'grew' to add more members including Gringo, Maxx and Christof. We got matching avatars (just wrestlers in gold colours), but the mods went mental and sl;agged us off in every thread, often just for the sake of it. Kam, showing what he thought, switched his normal avatar into an RX one for half hour. :P

However then it went very baddly.

I made a proboard forum for RX to chat, so we could have a laugh without being 'RX' on here. However some memebers of RX used the forum I made to slate the TWO mods. The mods found the forum and reported back to Kam....including the fact that one of the RX members (who was TWO staff at that point) had C+Pd some info from the private forums.

This event made RX collapse as a group as we realised the joke had become too real for a lot of people and had made even Kam start to dislike the group.
All the memebsr (IIRC) apologised, but even to this day people maintain we started it to try to gain power/cause toruble, when in fact we just wanted to have a laugh and have fun; shame it didnt work out that way.

Though I should add thats MY take alone, for all I know macthomat really did want to become the new site admin. :lol

[Omega]

Sometimes I think about the times where my entire personal life got plastered all over this forum in various controversial ways.

Then I just shake my head and laugh about how stupidly naive I was.

Now I'm just a lot older and read other people arguing rather than arguing myself, its much more fun.

Ah yes, this was very cryptic HSM when I stumbled across it. Whats the deal?

[HSM]

Ah yes, this was very cryptic HSM when I stumbled across it. Whats the deal?

Meh, it was 5 years ago now and I still thought that people told the truth when they spoke online and I made a bit of a tit of myself believing some things, so lets just leave it at that shall we. :xyx

[Omega]

Awww, I wanna know now! I promise I won't tell anyone and you can be my best friend and everything!

[Drake]

Ok, I'm speaking in behalf of the male population here in TWO. We want the Sunflower picture!!!!!

[Inno]

Meh, it was 5 years ago now and I still thought that people told the truth when they spoke online and I made a bit of a tit of myself believing some things, so lets just leave it at that shall we. :xyx

HSM bought a canoe, the rest is history ;)

[John Hancock]

As a newcomer, I LOVE this thread. I guess I have horrors like this to look forward to.

[DC]

Ok, I'm speaking in behalf of the male population here in TWO. We want the Sunflower picture!!!!!It was a nice boob.

[Ray]

As a newcomer, I LOVE this thread. I guess I have horrors like this to look forward to.

Going by current standards you won't, things have been pretty stable for a long time now.

[Drake]

It was a nice boob.

I know, I had the link to the picture but sadly it doesn't work anymore. :sad:

[The.Icon]

Greenberg for the Hall of Fame.

You can blame me for him. He was my friend and I introduced him to TWO. We have not spoke in a good while so I don't know what he is doing now. I also brought a guy named Patrick to TWO, you might recall him as Remlap. I stopped bringing people after that.

[Spiritchaser]

What DS said is just about perfect.

Who was the other member DS??

Damn I can't remember.

I'm off to search for him...

Methinks the guy was named SAVAGEFURY!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Mark]

No one's going to admit it now are they? :)

Go on AC...

Not sure if we've ever been in the same county. I will admit, however, to the "being led on" thing alluded to by SJJ.

I did hear a rumour about former member Jayden and Miss Flower but it's probably as true as whatever Saz is referencing.

[Popsi]

Oh my God, remlap, what a nutter!

TWO has had some funny funny times, RX for one, the clique for another! Ravenmark being dead then not dead will always stand out for me as a high point with this place!

Aaah TWO, the interesting times were when everyone was arguing!

I just realised i've been here over 5 years, oh dear me that's scary!! .

[Nicole]

Well, from my point of view it goes as follows:

there was a jokey thread about gang warfare or somesuch. 2 'stables' were created 'The Triad' which was Gringo, Maxx and The Manager, and 'Regeneration X' which was Boyo, myself, Spiritchaser, Machomat and......someone else. We had a jokey war between us which eventually got the thread locked. fair does and all that.

However the people in RX made a introduction thread that went down like a fart in a lift. I saw it as light hearted comedy (admittedly in retrospect a bad idea as well :P) but others saw it as an attempt to undermine Kam. RX 'grew' to add more members including Gringo, Maxx and Christof. We got matching avatars (just wrestlers in gold colours), but the mods went mental and sl;agged us off in every thread, often just for the sake of it. Kam, showing what he thought, switched his normal avatar into an RX one for half hour. :P

However then it went very baddly.

I made a proboard forum for RX to chat, so we could have a laugh without being 'RX' on here. However some memebers of RX used the forum I made to slate the TWO mods. The mods found the forum and reported back to Kam....including the fact that one of the RX members (who was TWO staff at that point) had C+Pd some info from the private forums.

This event made RX collapse as a group as we realised the joke had become too real for a lot of people and had made even Kam start to dislike the group.
All the memebsr (IIRC) apologised, but even to this day people maintain we started it to try to gain power/cause toruble, when in fact we just wanted to have a laugh and have fun; shame it didnt work out that way.

Though I should add thats MY take alone, for all I know macthomat really did want to become the new site admin. :lol


Thats bull. That group went out of it's way to be general bumwipes and try to be cool, when in reality it was a bunch of grown ups pretending they could have gangs, like they did back in school. Bloody pathetic attempt to try and undermine other users, and people didn't get punished enough for it in my opinion.

[Darkstar]

Thats bull. That group went out of it's way to be general bumwipes and try to be cool, when in reality it was a bunch of grown ups pretending they could have gangs, like they did back in school. Bloody pathetic attempt to try and undermine other users, and people didn't get punished enough for it in my opinion.

I never tried to be 'cool' or 'a bumwipe'. I gave my opinion on how it went, if you disagree fine, but thats what I saw it all as. I NEVER went in with the intention of anything other than light hearted fun. Kam saw that in us (hence his avatar change), the issue was people objecting to the group that created all the arguments (Ok some of the guys rose to the bait).
RX was about having fun (to begin), unlike other gangs/cliques/whatever before us who went in trying to cause trouble, insult mods (both forum and chat) and to 'change TWO for the better'.

edit: either way lets not start argument 56785787895969 over this.

[Nicole]

RX was about trying to be an elite, when frankly all members of the group basically spoke crap on the forums. It wasn't fun when people were writing rubbish on a seperate forum about chat mods, which wasn't exactly revealed straight away.

[Boyo]

What Darkstar said about RX is pretty much bang on, and what Nicole is saying is her own misguided opinion.

What caused RX to essentially collapse was two reasons, and two people's fault: mine and Darkstar's.

1. I was the staff member who used to cut 'n' paste all the slaggy things the TWO mods (at the time)used to write about us in the private TWO-Staff forums (I had my own W101 column at the time) and let the RX members read the garbage that Nicole et al were saying about us.

2. However, the entire RX forums were passworded...and Darkstar gave the passwords away, and that's how the TWO mods read all the stuff we were writing about them.

Good times, good times...

What I have always found funny is that the likes of Nicole get so wound up and righteous about the RXers taking the mick out of them in our own private, passworded forums, when they were doing just the same to us in their own private little forums.

Any current staff member wanting to know the real juicy TWO history only has to read the old threads in the staff forums. I did, and it's all fascinating :lol.

Cheers!

[Nicole]

Try and make me sound like an idiot. The fact is you were grown men, trying to "recruit" people into your little gang. Incredibly sad.

[Burakiosaurus]

*yawn*

take your bickering and name calling to PM or MSN please. This thread is for 'remeberance'

[Darkstar]

*yawn*

take your bickering and name calling to PM or MSN please. This thread is for 'remeberance'

Of bickering and name calling. :lol

[Omega]

Try and make me sound like an idiot. The fact is you were grown men, trying to "recruit" people into your little gang. Incredibly sad.

Bitter much? This thread is about explaining what happened which DS did so lets leave the who was right or wrong out of it....

[Nicole]

Bitter? About the fact I didn't get involved in their circlejerk?

[Anime_Otaku]

I remember seeing Sunflower's picture but not really RX, I think I remember the avatars but I probably avoided the drama. Don't remember Ravenmark's 'death' at all. The most cringe worthy thing thats happened to me is when someone in chat said they thought I was gay because I had a gay rights link in my forum sig even though I also had a comment indicating amourous (sp) feelings towards Hamada Ayako. Another that was either here or on Mitchell's old forum was when someone thought it'd be funny to put my pic on Gaydar.

[Burakiosaurus]

Of bickering and name calling. :lol

touché :)

[TMJ]

Another that was either here or on Mitchell's old forum was when someone thought it'd be funny to put my pic on Gaydar.
I swear someone found it on there already. I think you put it on personally.

[Omega]

Bitter? About the fact I didn't get involved in their circlejerk?

just about it in general which you seem to be given that it must be long ago, half the people don't post here and most things like this are now things that can be laughed at. No offense Nicole (which probably means I will offend you) but your sounding rather whiny and bitter about something that happen on an internet wrestling forum a long time ago, chillax....

[TMJ]

And suddenly the purpose of the thread shows its true colours...

[The Beltster]

My profile is on Gaydar somewhere, my workmates put it up ages ago and refused to give me the password to delete it. They update every so often and send homo messages to every gay member in Plymouth thinking it would be funny if I bumped into any of them while I'm out with my g/f.

F*ckers.

[Mark]

"The Deal" thread by The Gang (http://www.talkwrestlingonline.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4453)

I went to look the thread up and am stunned that it was so long ago - 2002?! Seems more recent than that. Anyways, it's pretty funny to go back and read it. Very earnest indeed.

[The Beltster]

"The Deal" thread by The Gang (http://www.talkwrestlingonline.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4453)

I went to look the thread up and am stunned that it was so long ago - 2002?! Seems more recent than that. Anyways, it's pretty funny to go back and read it. Very earnest indeed.Man...thats some retarded sh*t right there...a 'gang' on a forum? Like an online faction?! LMAO! Excuse me while I point and laugh and how pathetic and absurd that is!

Jesus, were you guys trying to get 'over' other members so your posts could 'main event'? :lol

I am picturing a bunch of geeks with coke bottle glasses and slick down greasy-ass hair painting their Warhammer 40K lead figurines while discussing how they are going to get over online.

[TMJ]

I've realised from that thread that I used to post like Ray does.

How humbling :(

[dpddave]

"The Deal" thread by The Gang (http://www.talkwrestlingonline.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4453)

I went to look the thread up and am stunned that it was so long ago - 2002?! Seems more recent than that. Anyways, it's pretty funny to go back and read it. Very earnest indeed.

Damn the chatroom was popular back in the day. I guess all those cliques and backstabbing did kill it :lol

[Popsi]

Oh my God, was the Gang in 2002?! hahaha god it's all so sad.

I can see Nics point though. However the RX members meant for the actions to be taken, they were viewed in different ways by other forum members. Ultimately whatever we do for whatever reasons will be viewed and interpreted differently by others. So even if RX felt they were doing one thing, it got seen as very different by other people. That makes Nic's view of hte situation just as valid as anyone elses I think.

[Anime_Otaku]

My profile is on Gaydar somewhere, my workmates put it up ages ago and refused to give me the password to delete it. They update every so often and send homo messages to every gay member in Plymouth thinking it would be funny if I bumped into any of them while I'm out with my g/f.

F*ckers.

If you look on gaydar for a help/contact page you'll find an email address for the admin, send them an e-mail saying someone posted your picture as a prank and they'll remove it, that's what I did.

[The Beltster]

Oh ok cool, I'll go on there and do that. Man, I hope my old lady doesnt browse my internet history log and see I've been looking around on Gaydar :lol

[DC]

I've realised from that thread that I used to post like Ray does.

How humbling :(That's nothing. I used to post like Six-Sides-of Genner in my early days.

[Ray]

I've realised from that thread that I used to post like Ray does.

How humbling :(

I post better than that.

[Dave7g]

I post better than that.

You need more "LOL" and "ROTFLMAO", you know, cool, elite internet speak.

[Inno]

Looking back on things, I've chilled out a LOT.

Thank the stars!

[Miss T]

Hehe that Gang thread is funny.. cjr, what a legend!! Miss T, what a weirdo.. god knows why I hated HSM so much. God I miss being able to flame people, TWO was MUCH more fun then.

[Popsi]

Yeah you used to be such a bitch to everyone, that was fun! ;)

[Kam]

Memories... :sml7:

I've had a quick look to see what I could find:

General

Imagine TWO, the soap opera (http://www.talkwrestlingonline.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1191)

Talk Wrestling Onlines Ten Most Interesting Moments (http://www.talkwrestlingonline.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19789)

Re: Ravenmark/Manonthemoon/TonyClifton (http://www.talkwrestlingonline.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11484)

An announcement of my own... (http://www.talkwrestlingonline.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21857)

'Noob' Posters (http://www.talkwrestlingonline.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21739)

Something about Jayden... (http://www.talkwrestlingonline.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18343)

My Behaviour (http://www.talkwrestlingonline.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5361)

Who's gotta go (http://www.talkwrestlingonline.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25226)

Ok, enough is enough... (rant, apologies, everyone to read) (http://www.talkwrestlingonline.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7490)

GIVE ME LOVE AND PRAISE PLEASE!!! - A Proper Farewell! (http://www.talkwrestlingonline.com/forum/showthread.php?t=31490)

Gone. (http://www.talkwrestlingonline.com/forum/showthread.php?t=31753)

A Little Announcement (http://www.talkwrestlingonline.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3186)

Nicole and Emag Show! (http://www.talkwrestlingonline.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3003)

What's been going on? (http://www.talkwrestlingonline.com/forum/showthread.php?t=32241)

Disappointed (http://www.talkwrestlingonline.com/forum/showthread.php?t=22442)

The Deal (http://www.talkwrestlingonline.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4453)

***Workers to Strike - Do We Care*** (http://www.talkwrestlingonline.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14364)

Right it has to stop... (http://www.talkwrestlingonline.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16503)

Minor Gripe (http://www.talkwrestlingonline.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1745)

TWO Proposal (Or Revolution to those in the know) (http://www.talkwrestlingonline.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3777)

Darkstar

Darkstar...ATTACKED AGAIN! (http://www.talkwrestlingonline.com/forum/showthread.php?t=29402)

Missing: Darkstar (http://www.talkwrestlingonline.com/forum/showthread.php?t=28203)

DS has just been robbed....... (http://www.talkwrestlingonline.com/forum/showthread.php?t=37157)

RX

Spiritchaser (http://www.talkwrestlingonline.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14347)

The Regeneration Will Not Be Televised (http://www.talkwrestlingonline.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12989)

Regeneration X (http://www.talkwrestlingonline.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12997)

[John Hancock]

God lord Kam, those were insane!

For better or worse, that's really changed my opions of a few people.

[dpddave]

I think TWO needs a new faction. So I'm calling out to all the hip young sexy members on TWO. Join my Faction of Wisdom. FoW. Craig,Drake,wolvie,Omar,Hooly and the rest.......Are you with me!!!!!

[Saz]

I will come over there and slap the lot of you if you do!

[Craig]

No I'm not with you. I already post enough pointless crap as it is.

[Inno]

Minor Gripe... still rocks! Elementary, my dear watson!

[TMJ]

Man, I was an amazing poster around 2005.

And then it all went so wrong :(

[Christof]

Ah that Spiritchaser thread, during my "drunk" gimmicky days! Older and wiser I guess (only guessing of course)!

[Darkstar]

Kam....youre memories feature me a little much.........are you in love with me? Is that why I got promoted? If so its fine....I love you too.:wub

[Ray]

M1TCH3LL's goodbye thread was a good read. I miss him. :(

[Darkstar]

Yeesh, I forgot how petty some people could get on this forum. :lol


Oh, and is Simon the only person who did a leaving thread and stayed away?

[MG]

Jeez where would some of you be without the Internet!

[TMJ]

Away from you.

[Omega]

On the sameish subject what posters from the past have been really influencial or major parts of the site but are no longer posting here?

[Mark]

On the sameish subject what posters from the past have been really influencial or major parts of the site but are no longer posting here?

Russ. :sad:

[Darkstar]

Colin. OK hes still about, but he rarely posts.

[MG]

Away from you.

That I am more than happy with!

[TMJ]

Russ. :sad:
I wouldn't consider it a bad thing. He moved over to SomethingAwful and in fairness, he comes across as a bit of a c**t over there. His humour is now far too over-our-heads and eh, he's able to project his words to thousands more people now, so :info7:

[Burakiosaurus]

That I am more than happy with!

me two! :good222:

ALEX DE SOUZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA !!!

[Jimmy Redman]

*sigh* I remember when I was a boy.

[lafdugga]

Me too it was strange the reaction i got when i came out, most people some who i now class as good friends did not care some people have not spoken to me since in chat! wierd. Their loss not mine!

[DC]

Oh, and is Simon the only person who did a leaving thread and stayed away?I think he is. Although I did a very well thought out not-leaving thread, and I stuck to it.

[TMJ]

Oh, and is Simon the only person who did a leaving thread and stayed away?
No, he isn't.

EDIT: Found it. http://www.talkwrestlingonline.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7607

EDIIT: And http://www.talkwrestlingonline.com/forum/showthread.php?t=24418

[Darkstar]

Ahhh, Karakot. Of course. No idea about the other guy mind.

I never thought that Laf was a bloke.

[Mark]

I'm embarrassed to admit that I never took in the fact that WelshScouser was Karakot. (That is the They Might Be Giants fan who looks like Malcom in the Middle who came to one of the early meet-ups, isn't it?)

[Darkstar]

:lol


No that was Walshy.

[Mark]

:lol


No that was Walshy.

Darn it! I thought that message at the top of the forums a couple of days ago: "You haven't posted for a while!" was joking. I'm all out of touch!

[edit] And apologies to Walshy for being a forgetful fool.

[Spiritchaser]

And there you have it, the history of TWO as told by Kam.
I guess I did leave on a Bosman after all Christof. Older and wiser (keep guessing Christof) hehehehehe.
Merry Christmas All Of You!

Spiritchaser
Tagged

[BRM]

No, he isn't.

EDIT: Found it. http://www.talkwrestlingonline.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7607

EDIIT: And http://www.talkwrestlingonline.com/forum/showthread.php?t=24418

Could you drag up some leaving threads from people who did'nt actully leave?

Miss yours out if you want ;)

[Spiritchaser]

Could you drag up some leaving threads from people who did'nt actully leave?

Miss yours out if you want ;)

Can't find mine:sad::greets4:

http://www.talkwrestlingonline.com/forum/showthread.php?t=22600

No, I did.
Oh the laughter it hurts.

[Miss T]

Karakot said I was smoking hot.. how sweet :P

[HSM]

god knows why I hated HSM so much. God I miss being able to flame people, TWO was MUCH more fun then.

Most people around here seem to have hated me for a period at one point or another. No idea why really, probably due to all the BS rumors that people used to spread about me. Ah well C'est la vie. :)

[Miss T]

Not all the rumours were bullsh*t though were they :P

[HSM]

Well no the one about farmyard animals was true, but everything else was just FILTHY LIES!!!!!

[HSM]

Oh and I just found my controversial thread, but Im not posting it! :P

[Popsi]

Please post it, these threads make me laugh if only at the terrible grammar and spelling most of us had!

[Christof]

I never thought that Laf was a bloke.

A woman??? Well you learn something new every day.

When / if I go there will be no leaving thread, no return, just a request to Kam that my account be deleted. Fell free to make that request on my behalf :xyx

[Fidel Cashflow]

Hm, one of them actually involve me.

Classy

[Ray]

When / if I go there will be no leaving thread, no return, just a request to Kam that my account be deleted. Fell free to make that request on my behalf :xyx

Why would you want it deleted? Couldn't you just have him put you in the 'closed' usergroup, along with Russ, Mr. Perfect and Mr.Knowitall? Then you could always come back, because you never know.

If I leave I'll do a leaving thread most probably, and I'm not ashamed to say that. I wouldn't ask for my account to be deleted or any of that business either. I'd just leave and that would be that, and IF I wanted to come back, then I could. Assuming Kam didn't blow his hard drive and delete everything. But that probably won't happen, he's good with computers... *cough*

[Wolverine]

http://www.talkwrestlingonline.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16707

The first thread Franchise ever posted in, I believe. It's quite fun.

[The Beltster]

What I want to know, is how do people 'decide' to leave? I mean, I dont even think of staying or leaving, I just come online, browse around a handful of sites. Sometimes I come to TWO, sometimes I dont.

Coming to TWO isnt a large (or even small) part of my daily excistance, and its not one of those things where I think either "I need to go on TWO today." nor "Man, I'm so busy and my life has moved for far in a different direction that I cannot log into TWO anymore, I'm leaving!" :lol To me, thats retarded.

If you have time to log into the internet, which we all do and all likely always will do from now on due to how the internet in general is such an intricate part of modern life, then logging onto this site or any other site may or may not happen on any given day you browse the net.

I'd never make an 'I'm leaving!' thread, because its bent. It reaks of attention seeking. If you dont wanna post here anymore for a specific reason, then just take the site off your favourites list and dont give it another thought, but dont give the big goodbye crap, who cares if you stay or go, really?

The site will continue on with a steady slew of new users regardless, YOU really arent that important, and on the other hand, a website shouldnt be that important to you where you have to make conscious decisions on whether you need to continue logging in or not.

Please people, get f*cking real! :lol

[Jimmy Redman]

http://www.talkwrestlingonline.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16707

The first thread Franchise ever posted in, I believe. It's quite fun.

Scott Steiner is one of the most gifted wrestlers on the face of the planet!

You people should have heard the sirens, shame on you.

[TMJ]

What I want to know, is how do people 'decide' to leave? I mean, I dont even think of staying or leaving, I just come online, browse around a handful of sites. Sometimes I come to TWO, sometimes I dont.

Coming to TWO isnt a large (or even small) part of my daily excistance, and its not one of those things where I think either "I need to go on TWO today." nor "Man, I'm so busy and my life has moved for far in a different direction that I cannot log into TWO anymore, I'm leaving!" :lol To me, thats retarded.

If you have time to log into the internet, which we all do and all likely always will do from now on due to how the internet in general is such an intricate part of modern life, then logging onto this site or any other site may or may not happen on any given day you browse the net.

I'd never make an 'I'm leaving!' thread, because its bent. It reaks of attention seeking. If you dont wanna post here anymore for a specific reason, then just take the site off your favourites list and dont give it another thought, but dont give the big goodbye crap, who cares if you stay or go, really?

The site will continue on with a steady slew of new users regardless, YOU really arent that important, and on the other hand, a website shouldnt be that important to you where you have to make conscious decisions on whether you need to continue logging in or not.

Please people, get f*cking real! :lolLeaving threads seem to be for attention seekers with big egos,maybe they secretly hope people might beg them to stay! Just go away if your going.
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/4594/mrseusaboohoorp9.gif

[dpddave]

Leaving threads seem to be for attention seekers with big egos,maybe they secretly hope people might beg them to stay! Just go away if your going.

[DC]

If people do that though, you end up with loads of posts asking where *enter member here* (oo-er) has gone.

I know which I prefer.

[MG]

"a"

[Ray]

Leaving threads seem to be for attention seekers with big egos,maybe they secretly hope people might beg them to stay! Just go away if your going.

I think the way the leaving thread is done is quite important. For example, if you post out all your grievances, a big list of people you didn't like, your 'real' thoughts on people in a quite bitter or angry manner, then yeah, that's bad. That's what makes people dislike leaving threads I think. But what if someone comes on and posts one saying I've thoroughly enjoyed my time here, but i'm moving away and etc etc, it's been a pleasure - take care!

If someone posts that, are you really going to say HEY YOU ATTENTION SEEKING *****! YOU MUST HAVE SUCH A BIG EGO BUT IM NOT RUBBING IT YOU CAN GET LOST LIKE MADELINE MCCANN FOR ALL I CARE!

I mean seriously, get over it. If someone posts a leaving thread, does it really effect you? As long as they don't flame everyone and generally break the forum rules in doing so, I don't see any problem with leaving threads at all.

The site will continue on with a steady slew of new users regardless, YOU really arent that important, and on the other hand, a website shouldnt be that important to you where you have to make conscious decisions on whether you need to continue logging in or not.

I understand your point, but surely if someone has visited this site regularly for a number of years, you'll give never going back more thought than a you would for a random website. At least for me, I have spent a lot of time here, and TWO has always meant a little bit more than most other sites. Is that sad? I don't think so. You can say Ha, you're too attatched to that website, get real! But on the flipside I can say So what, it's my favourite website, I've been there for years, and I don't see anything wrong with taking a few moments to make a thread saying bye. And I seriously don't. Some may find it silly and attention seeking, but I don't think it is at all. And to get on a high horse about it all is just stupid, maybe you should get real.

[Nimf]

I think unless there's some super important reason for leavng, then don't do a thread. If you're off to some random no-internet country, oryou're off travellg for a few years, then fair enough. Or ifyou have lots of awful things to say to people that will make for awesome reading...

[Mark]

I think the way the leaving thread is done is quite important. For example, if you post out all your grievances, a big list of people you didn't like, your 'real' thoughts on people in a quite bitter or angry manner, then yeah, that's bad.

Simon's leaving thread is the exception here. Yes it was bitter; yes he was a hateful homophobe; yes, I have no doubt that in the real world, had I met him, I would have gone out of my way never to meet him again. However, his leaving statement was written with such style that to dislike the internet Simon became very difficult. Then, of course, he left so I never had to put that impression to the test...

[Spiritchaser]

I find them cathartic it allows you to get out into the open anything that has been annoying you, for both sides, I hate bottling things up it does me no good.
I have to go nuclear in order for everyone to know I'm pissed.
I do it at work or wherever I am everyone knows I'm annoyed.
I think getting it out stops you from being sly, everyone knows the line and thus should respect that line.

I'm no angel and I do get people's back's up, I used to find it amusing, but I now respect their line too, and try not to cross it.

It's about learning and not judging.

[Omega]

Personally I'd rather read a leaving thread where someone aired all their grievances and burned all their bridges before leaving. As has been proved they make amazing reading after the fact!

[DC]

My favourite was Mr Dragon, who left the site in a huff, but not before changing every single post he ever did to "a".

[TMJ]

He missed a few. Honestly.

[King]

Refuse Matt M is missed :lol

[The Beltster]

You can say Ha, you're too attatched to that website, get real! But on the flipside I can say So what, it's my favourite website, I've been there for years, and I don't see anything wrong with taking a few moments to make a thread saying bye. And I seriously don't. Some may find it silly and attention seeking, but I don't think it is at all. And to get on a high horse about it all is just stupid, maybe you should get real.If its your favourite website, why would you be leaving, because I doubt there will be a time in your life where you wont be using the internet because as I said, its engrained in modern day life, so your telling me you wont have a spare 5 minutes to log into your "favourite website"?

And trust me, Ray, I'm not on a high horse at all, I'm giving you my opionin....thats OPINION....on retarded, attention seeking leaving threads. If you think that anybody who's opinion clashes with your own means they are on a high horse, maybe you ought to stop and think it through.

"Stupid" to think a leaving thread is stupid? :lol Yeah, because leaving threads arent stupid at all.

Please.

[Burakiosaurus]

I have to go nuclear in order for everyone to know I'm pissed.


like Ted from Heroes??

[TMJ]

If its your favourite website, why would you be leaving, because I doubt there will be a time in your life where you wont be using the internet because as I said, its engrained in modern day life, so your telling me you wont have a spare 5 minutes to log into your "favourite website"?

And trust me, Ray, I'm not on a high horse at all, I'm giving you my opionin....thats OPINION....on retarded, attention seeking leaving threads. If you think that anybody who's opinion clashes with your own means they are on a high horse, maybe you ought to stop and think it through.

"Stupid" to think a leaving thread is stupid? :lol Yeah, because leaving threads arent stupid at all.

Please.
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/4594/mrseusaboohoorp9.gif

[Antihero]

Wow. Now THIS is a debate. Personally, if you're going to leave, just do it. No fuss, no goodbyes, no regrets. If you're really missed, then people will track you down by other methods such as MSN, Bebo etc. But dont attempt to piss the world off or be funny. Thats my opinion anyway.

[lafdugga]

Well apart from people that can not help being funny!

[TMJ]

Having written a "farewell" of my own in the past, I always reitterate what I wrote at the top of it:

First of all, to anyone who doesn't enjoy reading someone spill his guts about a website that has given him a lot of opportunity and rant and rave about things that may make him seem like he views himself in a higher light than many others may do, then stop reading. Hit the "Back" button, and go find another thread to entertain. Let me, one last time, have my moment, please.

And you know what? People responded, and gave me messages of good will. I thought it was fair. I've helped this site grow over the years and am the reason for a few people being here in the first place. At the same time - I've gotten loads of TWO.

Without TWO, I wouldn't have met The Blue Meanie and gotten to sit with him for half an hour shooting the breeze with an interview that we could have (and should have) sold and made money from, that's how good the content was. I wouldn't have gotten involved with FCW, met Chris Sabin and Chris Daniels, gotten a stint at wrestling training, for FREE I might add, and seen and met all the things and people I did. This website gave me those opportunities, and I've made some great friends from it. Until we fell out, Fletch and I were best friends and that was due to this site. Colin came to stay with me for a week in September and we were able to live out our fantasies of being radio hosts for a week. Thanks to this site. Indirectly, I decided on my entire future as far as going into radio. That's a huge deal in my life, and TWO is partially responsible for that - the people and the site itself. Hell, this site actually helped GET ME INTO UNIVERSITY! No kidding - I was told I would have a struggle to get into the course I wanted until I showed them the work I'd done for TWO and W101, in terms of images, writings and knowledge of new media software. I was later told that my porfolio was what sold them on me - not my grades - and that I was already offered a place regardless. This site gave me that, and I don't think a single one of you will ever understand how much all of that moulded and shaped, and most of all, meant to me.

So people may hate farewell threads. Personally, I love them. Ok, so I didn't stick mine out (although I always maintain that it was also my swansong as admin, and that has remained until this day - I just expected to have less time to myself going to Uni - turns out I have even more than ever), but it gave me a chance at least to show my appreciation for the people and site that has, whether people like it or not, helped shape my life in a small but very important way. You get out what you put in and I admittedly put in more than most "normal people". Certainly more than I would have done so had I joined now, but I've reaped the rewards from it and for me, if I was going to conscientiously leave the site to start this new life, I want to thank the people I've gotten to know, even in text form (but a few I know in person now). And sure, it's nice to read the messages on your way out. Maybe few others can say this, but I f**king deserved some nice messages from this site :)

Plus, dramabombs are cool :P

[The Beltster]

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/4594/mrseusaboohoorp9.gifSurely its people who are writing "I'm leaving please love me" threads who are looking for the violin? :lol

Plus, lets be honest here, you are only defending it because you wrote one of those f*cking retarded threads, if you hadnt, you would be agreeing that they are stupid, pointless ego-driven nonsense.

[TMJ]

Plus, lets be honest here, you are only defending it because you wrote one of those f*cking retarded threads, if you hadnt, you would be agreeing that they are stupid, pointless ego-driven nonsense.
No I wouldn't. Please don't make accusations you know nothing about.

Reasonings above. Good day.

[dpddave]

Wow. Now THIS is a debate. Personally, if you're going to leave, just do it. No fuss, no goodbyes, no regrets. If you're really missed, then people will track you down by other methods such as MSN, Bebo etc. But dont attempt to piss the world off or be funny. Thats my opinion anyway.

Exactly. And like Nimf said I think someone should only make one if their actually going somewhere e.g. Jung going across the world.

Whats the point making a thread when your still gonna be sitting at home on the internet half the day. At least the chance is always their for you too come back and you dont look like an idiot when you do come back 3 weeks later.

[The Beltster]

No I wouldn't. Please don't make accusations you know nothing about.

Reasonings above. Good day.After going through so much time to script out a long and rambling so long thread, you sure as hell didnt leave for very long, if at all. Pretty much the same as everybody else who has ever written one.

Seems to me people want the attention, but when they realise nobody really gives a toss and the site is exactly the same whether they are there or not, they make an excuse and creep back in, which in turn makes them look really very stupid.

Reasonings above sound like bullsh*t to me to be honest. I dont care how important you think you are to a website, when you leave, it makes little or no difference. So, I tell you what old chap, you deny it, I'll hold my opinions and we'll leave it at that shall we?

Good day.

[TMJ]

Seems to me people want the attention, but when they realise nobody really gives a toss and the site is exactly the same whether they are there or not, they make an excuse and creep back in, which in turn makes them look really very stupid.
Or they get lots of praise, and then find out as time progresses that their time isn't nearly half as limited as they thought it would be and stick around.

But let's not let facts spoil our opinions, eh.

(Before people start getting pissy, I am talking 100% about me and no one else. Their reasons are their own and of no concern to me. You can say my reasons sound like bull all you want - but you're an old man with a family. I'm a kid finding his way around the world, and TWO allowed me to do many things I otherwise wouldn't have. Consider me appreciative of my blessings, and sue me if that gripes you)

[MG]

Hell it's a website....!!

Next people will be telling me they actually work for the WWE!! ;)

[Inno]

When I went off on my sabbaticals, I generally just left without a leaving thread. I may have mentioned "That's it, I'm off for a bit" but that was the limit!

[TGO]

Mr. Perfect left didn't he?

Why has he been logging in?

[Al Stevens]

My favourite was Mr Dragon, who left the site in a huff, but not before changing every single post he ever did to "a".

Did anyone remember what made him throw the toys out of the pram :lol

[Ray]

If its your favourite website, why would you be leaving, because I doubt there will be a time in your life where you wont be using the internet because as I said, its engrained in modern day life, so your telling me you wont have a spare 5 minutes to log into your "favourite website"?

Times can change, and you may no longer have time or the will to log into your favourite website anymore, but regardless you can still appreciate that it was your favourite.

And trust me, Ray, I'm not on a high horse at all, I'm giving you my opionin....thats OPINION....on retarded, attention seeking leaving threads. If you think that anybody who's opinion clashes with your own means they are on a high horse, maybe you ought to stop and think it through.

If you think that just because your opinion clashed with mine and I said you were on a high horse means I do this to everyone who has a different viewpoint, maybe you ought to stop and think it through. Seriously. You call leaving threads bent because they're "attention seeking and retarded", but what I think is bent is that just because for one moment someone concentrates on themselves and their status on the forum, then they must be attention seeking. Seriously, that's what's bent.

I mean let's think about it for a second, going by these standards posting a picture in the picture thread is attention seeking, I mean seriously, you're not important on the website, so who gives a crap what you look like? It's just someone going HEY EVERYONE COMPLIMENT ME! Same thing.

Oh, and no need to post 'opinion' twice. Just because I argued against your points doesn't mean I don't realise that what you're saying is your opinion.

"Stupid" to think a leaving thread is stupid? :lol Yeah, because leaving threads arent stupid at all.

I think it's stupid to have such a hate of leaving threads, thinking that everyone who makes them MUCH be attention seeking and are just being retarded. Is it a crime to want to say goodbye to people on a website you like, to have a bit of closure when you leave? The answer, in my opinion, is no.

[Miss T]

I loike the leaving threads where people say who they love and hate.. at least they're interesting :P

[The Beltster]

Times can change, and you may no longer have time or the will to log into your favourite website anymore, but regardless you can still appreciate that it was your favourite.Thats such a complete contradiction! If you have the time to use the internet, then you have the time to look at your favourite website, surely? I mean, if I have a specific favourite website and I'm online, chances are I'll be on that website...because its my favourite.

Plus, really, how much time do you need to have a quick browse around? 5-10 minutes? I'm pretty sure anybody can find a spare 5-10 mintes of a day once or twice a week to log in.

If you dont want to post here simply because the plate doesnt interest you anymore, I can see that as a valid reason, but if you claim it to be your favourite website and you also have time to browse online...

If you think that just because your opinion clashed with mine and I said you were on a high horse means I do this to everyone who has a different viewpoint, maybe you ought to stop and think it through. Seriously. You call leaving threads bent because they're "attention seeking and retarded", but what I think is bent is that just because for one moment someone concentrates on themselves and their status on the forum, then they must be attention seeking. Seriously, that's what's bent.No Ray, somebody seeking attention on an internet forum to fish for compliments and well wishes because they are 'leaving' (which they rarely actually do!), is bent. Thats my opinion, I'm not demanding you agree, so dont you sit there and tell me I'm on a high horse because I gave my opinion and you disagree with it.

If I were trying to force you to see it my way, then by all means, but I didnt. I gave my DIFFERING OPINION, and you label me to be on a soap box. Big difference, maybe you should learn said difference.

I mean let's think about it for a second, going by these standards posting a picture in the picture thread is attention seeking, I mean seriously, you're not important on the website, so who gives a crap what you look like? It's just someone going HEY EVERYONE COMPLIMENT ME! Same thing.Are you kidding? You think posting pictures is attention seeking? I assume that you therefor consider people telling others what they recieve for Christmas or when they buy a new item of clothes/video game to be attention seeking aswell?

I disagree. Do people do it to fish for compliments? I dont think they do at all. Plus, once people have seen you, then you know posting new pics isnt going to get to attention, surely? I post pics of myself, my g/f, son, this and that. I'm not looking for compliments, I dont think I get comments at all in general, yet I still post because its there. None of us on here are f'n supermodels, I know if I post I'm not expecting compliments. If I were doing it for that reason, I'd have stopped after the first pic I posted as I dont believe I've EVER recieved a compliment. Same with you, most of the times you post pictures, 99% of people who reply say you look like a girl with a stupid hairstyle, which are negative remarks, so are you telling me you post pics looking for compliments, because you dont get them. Take that the wrong way and take offence at it if you like, if you do, its because you arent getting my point and to be honest, I couldnt care less because if you arent getting it, I'm wasting my breath.

Oh, and no need to post 'opinion' twice. Just because I argued against your points doesn't mean I don't realise that what you're saying is your opinion.I'll post it as many times as I feel the need to post it. I dont tell you what to and what not to post, do I?

I think it's stupid to have such a hate of leaving threads, thinking that everyone who makes them MUCH be attention seeking and are just being retarded. Is it a crime to want to say goodbye to people on a website you like, to have a bit of closure when you leave? The answer, in my opinion, is no.I dont have a hatred of them, I simply think they are pointless and made for all the wrong reasons.

Just because I disagree with them Ray, doesnt mean I hate them. I dont give them enough thought to hate them, but when the subject is brought up, I'll give my OPINION (theres that word again!) on them, just like you did.

Are you telling me that my opinion that people make them for attention seeking purposes, is invalid? And if you are, is that because you disagree with my stance? If so, that makes you a little close minded from where I'm standing.

I'll reiterate, I think leaving threads and ego driven compliment-fishing nonsense. If you want to leave, leave. PM the people who you give a sh*t about and give them your contact details if you want to stay in touch, or dont if you dont want to, but making a big public song and dance that you are leaving, TO ME, is ridiculous, and only made worse when you come back within a bloody week!

Now, you feel free to argue all my points and we can go back and forth as much as you like, but the difference is I dont care if you agree with my opinion or not, whereas it seems you are trying to convince me to see it your way, which I wont.

Maybe I'm wrong.

[Dan]

By chance, I've just read this thread, and I'm so glad I've did, brought a smile to my face. The saying is true, the more things change, the more they stay the same.

[Ray]

Thats such a complete contradiction! If you have the time to use the internet, then you have the time to look at your favourite website, surely? I mean, if I have a specific favourite website and I'm online, chances are I'll be on that website...because its my favourite.

Plus, really, how much time do you need to have a quick browse around? 5-10 minutes? I'm pretty sure anybody can find a spare 5-10 mintes of a day once or twice a week to log in.

If you dont want to post here simply because the plate doesnt interest you anymore, I can see that as a valid reason, but if you claim it to be your favourite website and you also have time to browse online...

My whole point regarding this was that you can leave the site on decent terms and thus make a 'nice' leaving thread. Obviously if you're totally happy the site you probably won't leave, but not everybody leaves in a fireball of hatred and bitterness. For example, Mitch's thread was very complimentary to a lot of people, and although he didn't leave (and FYI he never said he would never come back), he very well could have done.

No Ray, somebody seeking attention on an internet forum to fish for compliments and well wishes because they are 'leaving' (which they rarely actually do!), is bent. Thats my opinion, I'm not demanding you agree, so dont you sit there and tell me I'm on a high horse because I gave my opinion and you disagree with it.

If I were trying to force you to see it my way, then by all means, but I didnt. I gave my DIFFERING OPINION, and you label me to be on a soap box. Big difference, maybe you should learn said difference.

I don't think everyone who makes leaving threads are fishing for compliments though. Some really do just want to say they're leaving, that's it! Someone like Simon for example, left with one of TWO's classiest posts ever (arguably, of course), and hasn't been seen since. No compliments wanted at all, he just said bye and left.

You can't have a go at people who say they're leaving and then don't, unless you want to contradict yourself (http://www.talkwrestlingonline.com/forum/showpost.php?p=460167&postcount=40). Profanity is still censored, so why are you here? And please don't think I'm telling you to leave, I'm just pointing out the contradiction.

Are you kidding? You think posting pictures is attention seeking? I assume that you therefor consider people telling others what they recieve for Christmas or when they buy a new item of clothes/video game to be attention seeking aswell?

It's that same basic rule throughout though, it's something totally about that person, so who should care - right?

I disagree. Do people do it to fish for compliments? I dont think they do at all. Plus, once people have seen you, then you know posting new pics isnt going to get to attention, surely? I post pics of myself, my g/f, son, this and that. I'm not looking for compliments, I dont think I get comments at all in general, yet I still post because its there. None of us on here are f'n supermodels, I know if I post I'm not expecting compliments. If I were doing it for that reason, I'd have stopped after the first pic I posted as I dont believe I've EVER recieved a compliment. Same with you, most of the times you post pictures, 99% of people who reply say you look like a girl with a stupid hairstyle, which are negative remarks, so are you telling me you post pics looking for compliments, because you dont get them. Take that the wrong way and take offence at it if you like, if you do, its because you arent getting my point and to be honest, I couldnt care less because if you arent getting it, I'm wasting my breath.

Dude, calm down with the whole you're not getting it thing. I know I don't get compliments for my pictures, and I'm not after them. Just because it's something about me doesn't mean i'm seeking attention or wanting praise, just like it doesn't have to be when someone makes a leaving thread. See? If anything, a leaving threads more directly affects the forum than someone posting a picture, so surely it's more important?

I'll post it as many times as I feel the need to post it. I dont tell you what to and what not to post, do I?

No, but to me that seemed like you thought I didn't get it was your opinion, which I did. Just letting you know, you know?

I dont have a hatred of them, I simply think they are pointless and made for all the wrong reasons.

Just because I disagree with them Ray, doesnt mean I hate them. I dont give them enough thought to hate them, but when the subject is brought up, I'll give my OPINION (theres that word again!) on them, just like you did.

Are you telling me that my opinion that people make them for attention seeking purposes, is invalid? And if you are, is that because you disagree with my stance? If so, that makes you a little close minded from where I'm standing.

Just because I disagree with you, doesn't mean I don't get it's your opinion. And i'm saying that your opinion is wrong, but that's only in MY opinion. Just as in your opinion, my OPINION is wrong. Do you see what I mean?

I'll reiterate, I think leaving threads and ego driven compliment-fishing nonsense. If you want to leave, leave. PM the people who you give a sh*t about and give them your contact details if you want to stay in touch, or dont if you dont want to, but making a big public song and dance that you are leaving, TO ME, is ridiculous, and only made worse when you come back within a bloody week!

I accept your opinion, it's perfectly valid to think that, however, in my opinion it's not always the case, for the aforementioned reasons.

Now, you feel free to argue all my points and we can go back and forth as much as you like, but the difference is I dont care if you agree with my opinion or not, whereas it seems you are trying to convince me to see it your way, which I wont.

Maybe I'm wrong.

Dude seriously, all I've done is give my points of view, debating the subject of leaving threads, just as you've done. I'm not trying to 'convince' you to see it my way by any stretch. I don't see where you're getting that from.

[Colin]

This thread is depressing. Mostly because I've realised I spent a good two years on this site seemingly defending every comment I made in futile pointlessness.

Two years well spent.

[Christof]

Without TWO, I wouldn't have met The Blue Meanie and gotten to sit with him for half an hour shooting the breeze with an interview that we could have (and should have) sold and made money from, that's how good the content was. I wouldn't have gotten involved with FCW, met Chris Sabin and Chris Daniels, gotten a stint at wrestling training, for FREE I might add, and seen and met all the things and people I did. This website gave me those opportunities, and I've made some great friends from it. Until we fell out, Fletch and I were best friends and that was due to this site. Colin came to stay with me for a week in September and we were able to live out our fantasies of being radio hosts for a week. Thanks to this site. Indirectly, I decided on my entire future as far as going into radio. That's a huge deal in my life, and TWO is partially responsible for that - the people and the site itself. Hell, this site actually helped GET ME INTO UNIVERSITY! No kidding - I was told I would have a struggle to get into the course I wanted until I showed them the work I'd done for TWO and W101, in terms of images, writings and knowledge of new media software. I was later told that my porfolio was what sold them on me - not my grades - and that I was already offered a place regardless. This site gave me that, and I don't think a single one of you will ever understand how much all of that moulded and shaped, and most of all, meant to me.

See that I can fully understand. Guys like yourself, Ray, Nicole (plus many more) have grown up on this site and with their peers around them so why wouldn't you say goodbye.

[The Beltster]

I'm leaving, everybody. Its been fabulous, I've made many enemies, and on top of that, come across alot of people I dislike and others I dont care for. Its been fun being around so many morons, and only wish I would have never came across the site.

Thanks to none of you, goodbye.

[The Beltster]

I've decided to come back. Phew, that was a rough minute and a half, where are all my accolades?

WHAT?! I didnt get any?

Thats it...I'm leaving.

[The Beltster]

OK I'm back.

[Craig]

I always hated that Beltmark guy.

EDIT - I mean nevermind.

[The Beltster]

Ohhhhhh, attention! Just what I was looking for, lavish it upon me, even if its bad, I neeeeeeeed it!

[Colin]

Insert 8 paragraph rant about the state of TWO these days and how members like insert member here are the reason for the decline

[Craig]

I think members like Colin are the reason for the current decline in posting on TWO. I expect better from you Colin. You used to be a good poster. Now you're just an ok one.

[Burakiosaurus]

Brokeback Mountain!

[Saz]

Without TWO, I wouldn't have met The Blue Meanie and gotten to sit with him for half an hour shooting the breeze with an interview that we could have (and should have) sold and made money from, that's how good the content was.

You do know I still have that interview on tape don't you mitch? There's still time to sell it;)

As for farewell threads, it's like writing to my local german dungeon porn site and saying "Hey, bondage nuns was great but I feel that mistress whiplash doesn't pay me the respect i think i deserve, so I'm leaving". You just leave!

As much as I like a lot of people here, there are very few I have actually socialised with and therefore deserve an explaination of my departure. Mitch is a different case as he actively socialises with a lot of the TWO members and I felt his goodbye meant something to me.

But seriously, as great as TWO is, it is an electronic medium and privvy to the misconceptions that the written word gives, Miss T thinks I hate her, Popsi doesn't think she likes me, Darky wants to start a gay relationship (and who would blame him?) I haven't met these people (except darky, but he doesn't count) so why would I expect these people to like me or even care if I am here or not.

No people, the best way is to go quietly because the attention seeking always fails!

[Christof]

I'm leaving, everybody. Its been fabulous, I've made many enemies, and on top of that, come across alot of people I dislike and others I dont care for. Its been fun being around so many morons, and only wish I would have never came across the site.

Thanks to none of you, goodbye.

What a shame, we'll all miss your ginger beard and bandana combination photos I'm sure :xyx

I've decided to come back. Phew, that was a rough minute and a half, where are all my accolades?

WHAT?! I didnt get any?

Thats it...I'm leaving.

Damn, we'll all welcome more ginger beard and bandana photos I'm sure :xyx

:jump

[TMJ]

See that I can fully understand. Guys like yourself, Ray, Nicole (plus many more) have grown up on this site and with their peers around them so why wouldn't you say goodbye.

Mitch is a different case as he actively socialises with a lot of the TWO members and I felt his goodbye meant something to me.
Exactly. That's my point about what my feeling was with doing it. Beltmark is an old man with a family. He's done lots in his life and came to this site as a side thing to discuss wrestling. As pointed out, I grew up on this site and it helped me out a lot (and I helped it out a lot). So Belty will never be able to understand my position because, let's be honest, he's too old and mature (questionable) and hasn't had the experiences here that I have. That's why I'm so dismissive of his "opinion".

[Spiritchaser]

Anyways for me I didn't leave looking for praise, I left so that the negatives could be released. I didn't need the attention, those that wanted me gone did.IMO

It's crazy to think now about what was going through heads, but in the immortal words of The Bongo meh!

I hold no grudges against anyone but they may hold them against me again, meh! People aren't always going to like you or even spend the time to get to know you, and then make an educated guess at whether they like you or not.

I think leaving threads have a purpose, good bad or indifferent, and no one but the person writing it knows the purpose of it.

We have all had little altercations here even you Belty and even you Belty have left TWO and come back due to a disagreement or two, it's old now though and somewhat funny.

[Darkstar]

Ohhhhh, I forgot how funny some of this stuff was. Thanks for all this Kam. :lol

[Christof]

Beltmark is an old man.

:lol

[TMJ]

Younger than some, granted :P

But my point is that he'll never understand my position because when he came to this site, he was an older guy with a family and when you're at that point, it's like you've done everything, so the internet seems so trivial and secondary, which is completely understandable. It'd be like me saying "I don't understand why you'd want to be a Dad - I think that kids are just a waste of space and there's more to life than raising a child". I could easily say it, but I am not a father and therefore don't understand the position of a father. Hence BM can come in and say "well you know, I have a child and it's the most amazing thing". In a similar way, I can say why the internet means something to me because I grew up on it, met a lot of my best friends on here, got into Uni thanks to being on here (amongst other things) and so on. That's why you'll notice people like Nicole and Ray see the site differently to people like Spirit, BM, etc. Age and context are a lot to do with it.

Hence I'm all for leaving threads. It's nice to see other people with an attachment to the site and I enjoy reading certain posts and debating with certain people.

[Colin]

Brokeback Mountain!

Hi! This is a very funny comment and just as witty ever time it's posted. In no way is it tired, old and generally an example of your lack of insight into humour. Please continue to post this comment after every post I make as two year old jokes that weren't really funny in the first place are really the "in thing" now. Like pokemans and iPods.

Crowds are currently rushing to your house to congratulate you on your comedy genius and they will be having a parade in your honour momentarily.

[The.Icon]

I'm leaving, but I will be back at about 6:40. I take breaks from TWO every now and again and have done since I joined but I never post goodbye threads. (I do post hello again ones mind.) I do like reading goodbye threads though. They can be good and bad, no correction they are always good and bad. Mostly in the same post.

Speaking of cringe worthy moments. Anybody remember when my Sister posted here? (ONE & ONLY JENNY.W) We used to torture each other we would flame each others posts just for kicks. Incidently that was under my old name. (I was not alwasy kurtmark I did change my name.) I tried to find some of the posts but no luck yet, if I do I will post links.

[The Beltster]

even you Belty have left TWO and come back due to a disagreement or two.Yeah, I got banned! It wasnt by choice :lol

[Darkstar]

Yeah, I got banned! It wasnt by choice :lol

Baned? You? When? What mod did that? The evil git!

[The Beltster]

Baned? You? When? What mod did that? The evil git!I dont remember :lol I'm guessing by your post that it was you, but if I'm misreading, accept my appologies because I've no idea who banned me or for what reason.

Apparently, I remember very little these days. Christ.

[Christof]

I'm guessing you were cooled off, but in reaction, threw your bandana off, hulked up and swore war on whoever "banned" you :xyx

[Darkstar]

No, I banned him. I am amazed you have forgot Belty, after the huge (but funy) rant you left on my mspace for it. :lol

[The Beltster]

I'm guessing you were cooled off, but in reaction, threw your bandana off, hulked up and swore war on whoever "banned" you :xyxYou have those bandana's on the brain dont you? I only used them while growing my hair out, so they dont get useage anymore. Would you like one? :lol

No, I banned him. I am amazed you have forgot Belty, after the huge (but funy) rant you left on my mspace for it. :lolYou have a MySpace? :lol

[Drake]

I guess this thread can be classed as the time were we find out that Belty had gone senile. ^_^

[Darkstar]

I guess this thread can be classed as the time were we find out that Belty had gone senile. ^_^

Just a bit. :lol


Belty...really this must be a joke.

[Christof]

You have those bandana's on the brain dont you? I only used them while growing my hair out, so they dont get useage anymore. Would you like one? :lol

Nah, I couldn't do the hulking up / bald spot hiding thing. I couldn't hulk up on the deli counter guy at Tesco when they've run out of prime Corned Beef and ask him what "HE'S GONNA DO ABOUT IT".

I mean with my fluffy hair it would look like a hair net anyway :lol

[The Beltster]

Just a bit. :lol

Belty...really this must be a joke.Nah, Nicki gives me grief about my bad memory all the time. If its something I'm interested in, can make money from or work/Hulk Hogan related, I remember. Everything else, probably not.

I've made plans to go out only several days before the event, and forgot about it.

Nah, I couldn't do the hulking up / bald spot hiding thing. I couldn't hulk up on the deli counter guy at Tesco when they've run out of prime Corned Beef and ask him what "HE'S GONNA DO ABOUT IT".I'd be inclined to Hulk Up at him if he did have Corned Beef, vile meat of the devil!

I mean with my fluffy hair it would look like a hair net anyway :lolIf you were to grow your hair out, would it look like an afro?

[John Hancock]

I'm guessing you were cooled off, but in reaction, threw your bandana off, hulked up and swore war on whoever "banned" you :xyx

The image of Belty hulking up on his computer, all by himself, dressed as Hulk Hogan, will never leave me.

[Nimf]

You have those bandana's on the brain dont you? I only used them while growing my hair out, so they dont get useage anymore. Would you like one? :lol

You have a MySpace? :lol
Can I have one? I appear to have lost all mine and they hide bad hair days...Oh and you do know that the :lol is on you-you have to HAVE a Myspace to leave a message on somebody elses...

[The Beltster]

Can I have one? I appear to have lost all mine and they hide bad hair days...Oh and you do know that the :lol is on you-you have to HAVE a Myspace to leave a message on somebody elses...You can have one if you like, any preference on colour?

And I dont even remember leaving a message on DS's MySpace, or recieving any from him, thats what I meant. If asked if he has MySpace, I'd have said "I have no idea."

I know I have my mate Martin on there, some blonde bird with enormous tits who claims she knows me from school and my belt maker...apart from that, I've no idea who is or isnt on my list.

[The.Icon]

I don't know why but I liked this thread.

http://www.talkwrestlingonline.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3716

oh I had complety forgoten all about this. http://www.talkwrestlingonline.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4147 I found it while looking for something else. I paid banzai to write all that crap. That is to say I wrote it and she posted it. It was intended to go on for longer but I guess I just stopped, I really don't remember this at all.

http://www.talkwrestlingonline.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4254

The brother refered to was of course me. My original account had being removed in one of kams deletle inactive account clean ups I guess and I never did use the pheonix name. However and to make things really silly a friend from another forum signed up with the name. We were all just laughing at everybody behind their backs. http://www.talkwrestlingonline.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4288

[Miss T]

Miss T thinks I hate her.

Erm.. no I dont.

[Darkstar]

If it helps, I dont want a gay sexy time with you either Saz.

[Burakiosaurus]

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/AQUA/24-383~Brokeback-Mountain-Posters.jpg

[Nimf]

I remember meeting Burak. He was a fussy fry-up eater... And Rog doesn't eat egg whites. Random member info of the day.

[Inno]

I couldn't have touched a fry up the one time I met you. I was having trouble getting the floor to stop spinning about long enough to BE the floor.

[Burakiosaurus]

I remember meeting Burak. He was a fussy fry-up eater... And Rog doesn't eat egg whites. Random member info of the day.

was I?? i'm sorry :sad5:

but the fry up i did have was lip-smackingly delicious!

[Nimf]

was I?? i'm sorry :sad5:

but the fry up i did have was lip-smackingly delicious!Aww bless, no need to be sorry, if it had been an issue I would have shoved my spatula up your...I mean, I would have said something. And thank you for the compliment, I do enjoy cooking!:)

[DC]

I do enjoy cooking!:)And I enjoy eating. You can see why the marriage works.

[Saz]

Erm.. no I dont.

Saz - Doesnt like me and I dont really care.

The above tells a different story...

Oooh I had a Poirot moment there! :)

[Miss T]

Thats a bit different from me saying I hate you. Also when did I write that?

[Burakiosaurus]

Fletch running away from Banner during our 'wrestling show' at one of the 1PW shows was pretty hillarious

[DC]

I thought he ran away from me because I no-sold his chairshot.

[Saz]

Thats a bit different from me saying I hate you. Also when did I write that?

I never said you hated me, I said you thought I hated you.

Last suck up thread.

[Nimf]

Fletch running away from Banner during our 'wrestling show' at one of the 1PW shows was pretty hillarious

I thought he ran away from me because I no-sold his chairshot.He did a whole lot of running away...

[DC]

His face when I no-sold the chair was priceless though.

[Antihero]

Fletch running away from Banner during our 'wrestling show' at one of the 1PW shows was pretty hillarious

To be fair, a lot of people would run away from DC or Banner. They're both scary looking (but totally cool when you talk to em) dudes. Personally i thought the random elbow drops was the highlight of that particular incident....:lol