View Full Version : TWOstars Xtreme TV 20 - July 7th
Christof
03-07-2005, 10:33 PM
Ok folks
Back with another week of matches.
Please inform me if you decide to write a match but cannot make your deadline. Please note we have left the west of the US and are now in on the east coast, why? Because I want to go to bed and can't be arsed to find somewhere on my tour map so we'll be on the east coast until the next PPV.
XTV 20 - July 7th
Madison Square Garden, New York
Wednesday
Arkham vs Boyo - Boyo writing
Thursday
Re-Evolution (Mills & Eagles) vs The Judge & The Assassin - Paulrog writing
Friday
Barry Gower vs Retromark - Ravenmark writing
Saturday
C2K vs Brett Banner - BB writing
Sunday
The Future (Gringo, Holt & Trash) vs Draven Cage + Violent Vinnie Vengeance - Andy Telford writing
Please let me know if you want to write, I'll PM you the booking.
Cheers
Chris
Ravenmark
03-07-2005, 10:34 PM
Me wants RM vs Gower!
I will take the Re-Evolution/Judge Assassin match.
Colin
04-07-2005, 04:40 PM
Chris said he'd prefer not to do his match, so that leaves it to you Brett I suppose.
Christof
04-07-2005, 08:45 PM
Well the show is up, lets go from there
I can do my match if Arkham doesn't want to?
Cheers!
Jimmy Redman
05-07-2005, 02:55 AM
I can do my match if Arkham doesn't want to?
Cheers!
Arkham is Mr Fill's character if you didnt know...
Yup, I knew :).
Just didn't know how many other people did.
Fill, are you or I writing it, bud?
Cheers!
The Doctor
05-07-2005, 07:22 PM
Chris said he'd prefer not to do his match, so that leaves it to you Brett I suppose.
Oakily doakily. :D
MrFill
06-07-2005, 04:15 PM
Yup, I knew :).
Just didn't know how many other people did.
Fill, are you or I writing it, bud?
Sorry, been hellish with work this week so far (launched a new product about a week ago :P) - no time to write much, sorry
I've still got to read the start of the show and post something with the big guy
Damn, I'm slacking :(
Evil Gringo
06-07-2005, 05:10 PM
Just to confirm that like MrFill mu week has been a nightmare in workload so writing the main event is out of my reach...
If anyone would like to step in I'd much rather them do a good job then me rush it.
Christof
06-07-2005, 08:19 PM
Telf is writing the Main event now. Looking forward to seeing the first match now
Ravenmark
06-07-2005, 09:16 PM
I Hope everyone is looking forward to Gower vs Retromark :P
I GUARAN-DAMN-TEE you will love it.
Christof
06-07-2005, 11:24 PM
It sure it a lengthy read
Ravenmark
06-07-2005, 11:33 PM
Quality - not quantity, Chris. :P
Just posted Boyo vs Arkham. It's not that good but it was written in about 40 minutes, due to today's events :).
I can do better. I never seem to do Fill's characters justice, either; a much maligned feature of Boyo's character.
Cheers!
Colin
08-07-2005, 02:16 AM
Not my strongest work, but it sets up what Telf has planned I suppose.
Ravenmark
08-07-2005, 11:03 AM
One problem, Boyo.
My character is called Retromark, not Ravenmark.
Trash
08-07-2005, 11:11 AM
Yeah I've made that mistake
:(
One problem, Boyo.
My character is called Retromark, not Ravenmark.
Sorry about that Ravenmark.
An easy mistake to make but it won't happen again.
Cheers!
MrFill
08-07-2005, 01:33 PM
RM,
That was SUPERBLY funny and superbly silly all at the same time
Love the way it was written in kayfabe :D
Ravenmark
08-07-2005, 01:35 PM
That was the booking I was given. ;)
Evil Gringo
09-07-2005, 10:18 AM
Just put a little something up... Hope it helps the build up and advances DC's sadistic streak...
Enjoy guys.
The B-Man
09-07-2005, 12:58 PM
I think it is best if I don't comment on that match cause I really will lose the plot on it. There are so many things wrong with it I really would end up getting banned from here for the language I would use.
The Crippler
09-07-2005, 01:01 PM
I think it is best if I don't comment on that match cause I really will lose the plot on it. There are so many things wrong with it I really would end up getting banned from here for the language I would use.
RAGING! :P
Christof
09-07-2005, 03:19 PM
King Holt's Coronation T Shirt - LOL!
I've posted a short backstage skit. Thoughts and comments would be much obliged
I've posted a short backstage skit. Thoughts and comments would be much obliged
I liked it, but Im still trying to recover from Evil Gringos segment, evilness!
The B-Man
10-07-2005, 12:48 AM
Yeah I liked it too, much better than being totally jobbed in a match, which I believe is being edited.
Baz, don't you think you're going a bit OTT with this. But it was an enjoyable read - not the sort of thing that happens often
The Doctor
10-07-2005, 05:44 AM
I'm done! My "Saturday" match was actually posted in the early hours of Sunday. Sorry, peeps. Busy man, what can I say? :D
The main event will be up early tonight
I'll be posting in 3 parts. First will be a comedy sketch involving the commentators for the match which will hopefully amuse some. Then two match parts as per usual
Final match is up
Hope you all enjoy the first seg with the commentator exchange
The match itself is longer than usual, it's always tricky writing a match with 5 people, especially when there's a fair few spots that need be addressed. It did take me absolutely ages to write all that so hopefully it has done the job it needed to
Comments are welcomed as always
Final match is up
Hope you all enjoy the first seg with the commentator exchange
The match itself is longer than usual, it's always tricky writing a match with 5 people, especially when there's a fair few spots that need be addressed. It did take me absolutely ages to write all that so hopefully it has done the job it needed to
Comments are welcomed as always
The prematch commentator exchange was fantastic :lol
The B-Man
10-07-2005, 08:16 PM
Can you please ensure the Ravenmark V Gower match is edited before this show is locked.
Also in Future please don't do anything as silly again. People should rarely be kicking out of finishers to do it to an over finisher on a meaningless TV match was ludicrus. Going to read the main event later then will give my thoughts on it.
The Doctor
10-07-2005, 08:20 PM
Can you please ensure the Ravenmark V Gower match is edited before this show is locked.
Also in Future please don't do anything as silly again. People should rarely be kicking out of finishers to do it to an over finisher on a meaningless TV match was ludicrus. Going to read the main event later then will give my thoughts on it.
Seemed like a quite accurate pastiche of a Hogan match to me.
Evil Gringo
10-07-2005, 08:24 PM
Man B-Man you are getting really sore about this aren't you...
It's going to be edited, just be patient and calm down... That was an exact copy of Hogan match bar one thing.... Hogan wouldn't take a Burning Hammer...
The Doctor
10-07-2005, 08:26 PM
Man B-Man you are getting really sore about this aren't you...
It's going to be edited, just be patient and calm down... That was an exact copy of Hogan match bar one thing.... Hogan wouldn't take a Burning Hammer...
Why must it be edited though? What did I miss?
Hogan in pointless squash match/no sell shocker!
Old news... :D
Evil Gringo
10-07-2005, 08:47 PM
I thought Christof or Darkie had decided that it would be... if they have decided its not going to be then tough B...
Its up to them they are the bookers.
Personally I don't think it should be edited, and why? Because I found it a very enjoyable read and i couldn't help but laugh
I thought the whole idea of an efed is that people are allowed to be creative and enjoy reading other people's work
I think you're taking this far far far too seriously. Scott had a gimmick for the Retromark character so it was only fitting that the match ended as it did. It's not like people are gonna think - "wait a minute, what is Gower doing around the title picture when he jobbed to Hulkstermark in 20 seconds?" To me that's more believable that someone holding 83 titles at once
Would you still be this annoyed if it was Keith Jaxx.......?
Christof
10-07-2005, 09:09 PM
Can you please ensure the Ravenmark V Gower match is edited before this show is locked.
I'm not happy that this is near enough the first thing I see when I pop online. It annoys me that I have given my assurances that it will be done and yet this is being questioned.
As a result of this and some issues raised over the last couple of weeks by various people I will be speaking with Darkstar about a new idea for people coming into TWOstars in the future.
Ravenmark
10-07-2005, 09:12 PM
I don't see what all the fuss is about.
Although I hear you are a little p*ssed with me kicking out of your 'over' finisher - you can get OVER in an efed?!
And just so you know, if you could get over in an efed - you are not over in TWO Stars.
I am currently winning the vote for 'Best Face' in TWO Stars, so if anyone is over, it's me brother!
So the number one face in the company going over a newcomer (which WAS the booking), seems pretty fair to me. :P
Going back to the 'over' comment - it bothers me, really - if IF IF IF you cvan get over in an efed it's because people like to read your work.
I have only gotten positive feedback from this match - apart from you Baz - how much positive feedback did you get from your 8 man snoozefest last week?
Then again, you must be over - you have your own DVD!
Oh Dear.
Colin
10-07-2005, 09:31 PM
I don't see what all the fuss is about.
Although I hear you are a little p*ssed with me kicking out of your 'over' finisher - you can get OVER in an efed?!
And just so you know, if you could get over in an efed - you are not over in TWO Stars.
I am currently winning the vote for 'Best Face' in TWO Stars, so if anyone is over, it's me brother!
So the number one face in the company going over a newcomer (which WAS the booking), seems pretty fair to me. :P
Going back to the 'over' comment - it bothers me, really - if IF IF IF you cvan get over in an efed it's because people like to read your work.
I have only gotten positive feedback from this match - apart from you Baz - how much positive feedback did you get from your 8 man snoozefest last week?
Then again, you must be over - you have your own DVD!
Oh Dear.
Scott, this post isn't exactly going to defuse anything.
Ravenmark
10-07-2005, 09:32 PM
Scott, this post isn't exactly going to defuse anything.
I KNOW! :D
Slim Jim
10-07-2005, 09:35 PM
It really isn't that bad. If you take a finisher after 5 seconds you are likely to kick out anyway. Then BG wasn't expecting to be Hulked.
Christof
10-07-2005, 09:35 PM
The match has been edited in a way that was satisfactory to both participants and myself as a booker.
I have re dited the match due to my own incompetance
The B-Man
10-07-2005, 09:42 PM
Ok Defending myself from everyone’s comments as it seems none of you like my work or anything have to say here
Man B-Man you are getting really sore about this aren't you...
It's going to be edited, just be patient and calm down... That was an exact copy of Hogan match bar one thing.... Hogan wouldn't take a Burning Hammer...
Exactly that Hogan would not have taken the Hammer a move might I add that noone has kicked out of and the move that ended Fill’s career. People should not be kicking out of ANYONE’s finisher in a non-fued TV match, simple as that.
Seemed like a quite accurate pastiche of a Hogan match to me.
My Character actually has ability and I like to think I have some writing talent even if you lot for some reason don’t think that I do/ can’t except me cause I am not of TWO origin.
Why must it be edited though? What did I miss?
Hogan in pointless squash match/no sell shocker!
Old news... :D
See above
I thought Christof or Darkie had decided that it would be... if they have decided its not going to be then tough B...
Its up to them they are the bookers.
Darkies booking is a hell of a lot different from how Christof has booked me in this match. This is not Christof or Darkies fault as I know Darky has a lot more pressing problems in his personal life to worry about wether he told Christof this or that.
Personally I don't think it should be edited, and why? Because I found it a very enjoyable read and i couldn't help but laugh
I thought the whole idea of an efed is that people are allowed to be creative and enjoy reading other people's work
I think you're taking this far far far too seriously. Scott had a gimmick for the Retromark character so it was only fitting that the match ended as it did. It's not like people are gonna think - "wait a minute, what is Gower doing around the title picture when he jobbed to Hulkstermark in 20 seconds?" To me that's more believable that someone holding 83 titles at once
Would you still be this annoyed if it was Keith Jaxx.......?
The match ending does not bother me so much as the fact my finisher was made look like a joke. Even if the finisher is not OVER in TWO this certainly doesn’t help matters. As for Jaxx no I would not have been as bothered as I have not been working with that Character for 18 months plus the fact Jaxx will be going away soon, due to the fact it’s breaking the 2 account rule and I don’t have time to keep him going.
I'm not happy that this is near enough the first thing I see when I pop online. It annoys me that I have given my assurances that it will be done and yet this is being questioned.
As a result of this and some issues raised over the last couple of weeks by various people I will be speaking with Darkstar about a new idea for people coming into TWOstars in the future.
Apologies to Christof for this as he did say he would edit the match for me. It was just getting to the stage of not seeing him about and the Main Event not being up so I wanted to make sure that the main event was not up.
Evil Gringo
10-07-2005, 10:36 PM
When you say no one has kicked out of the Burning Hammer you do mean in TWOStars and ERE don't you...
Because if you mean ever I can count at least two...
Christof
10-07-2005, 10:44 PM
Must admit I had trouble working out what the move was. At first I thought it was similar to the bloke in Austin Powers that killed people with shoes - "Honestly, Who throws a shoe?". Then I realised that throwing a burning hammer would be dangerous and could hurt a fan, so I found out it was indeed a wrestling move.
I had a similar issue with PMA's "Nutshot"
The B-Man
10-07-2005, 10:45 PM
When you say no one has kicked out of the Burning Hammer you do mean in TWOStars and ERE don't you...
Because if you mean ever I can count at least two...
Yeah I meant TWO and ERE, and when I hit it yes. It has been a move I would like to mean something when it is kicked out of, same for when I tap, when I tap to someone it means something to the person that made me tap as the did something for the 1st time making them look good. Sorry if that sounds arrogant but I think it's a better way to put someone over rather than kick outs here there and everywhere and tap, tap, tap.
Evil Gringo
10-07-2005, 10:56 PM
Well no one has kicked out of the Shock Therpay or the Death Star Press.... But if it was a ppv match and it was a huge match then I would write into the match as would anyone else...
Thats if it the match had huge build up...
But that is why I have the Skullburner and the Gringo Lock. Two impressive moves but seen as one is a submission it is counterable and escapeable (and also allows you to get a psychology going as well) and one is a high power sub-finish (Like Takers Chokeslam and Kobashi's Lariat and Tenzan's TTD etc) which can be kicked out off to add drama...
Maybe Barry's arsenal needs an update to give him options apart from the Hammer, make it a last resort like Kobashi's real life one.
Plus I understand your reason's but the fact is B that in these circumstances and the way it was written I believe it didn't take anything away from your move and it was just a means to an end.
Just off this debate, but if anyone has had a chance to read the main event i would appreciate people's comments
Evil Gringo
10-07-2005, 11:10 PM
Very good read, covered all the major points like Atkin and VVV, Me and Cage and also the dischord that is going through the Future at the moment.
Loved the Death Star roll through into the noose as well. Really nice counter work.
Colin
11-07-2005, 12:42 AM
I had a similar issue with PMA's "Nutshot"
Kick to the nuts is deadly. DEADLY
As for the match Telf, as I said of MSN, excellent stuff man, sets up everything nicely.
The B-Man
11-07-2005, 01:28 AM
Well no one has kicked out of the Shock Therpay or the Death Star Press.... But if it was a ppv match and it was a huge match then I would write into the match as would anyone else...
Thats if it the match had huge build up...
But that is why I have the Skullburner and the Gringo Lock. Two impressive moves but seen as one is a submission it is counterable and escapeable (and also allows you to get a psychology going as well) and one is a high power sub-finish (Like Takers Chokeslam and Kobashi's Lariat and Tenzan's TTD etc) which can be kicked out off to add drama...
Maybe Barry's arsenal needs an update to give him options apart from the Hammer, make it a last resort like Kobashi's real life one.
Plus I understand your reason's but the fact is B that in these circumstances and the way it was written I believe it didn't take anything away from your move and it was just a means to an end.
I have a lot of moves that can be used as well as a sub finisher. And the way the match was writing, there barley was a match and explain how not being in a fued with Ravenmark warrents him kicking out of my finisher, hell it would be silly if he was Godmark:P
The Doctor
11-07-2005, 02:49 AM
I have a lot of moves that can be used as well as a sub finisher. And the way the match was writing, there barley was a match and explain how not being in a fued with Ravenmark warrents him kicking out of my finisher, hell it would be silly if he was Godmark:P
He was channelling Hogan, who could easily get God to job to a legdrop! :D
Evil Gringo
11-07-2005, 12:42 PM
Yeah don't you know Hogan fought God at Madison Square Garden and he jobbed to the leg drop!
Put it this way... He was being Hogan, it was a Hogan type match, it went down as a Hogan TV match would and now it has been edited to protect your finisher even though if the bookers say so then you should really take it....
If I was booked in the same position I'd take it, simply because its a frickin' e-fed!
I can see where B-Man is coming from; and there's a lack of respect being shown here.
Yes, he takes it all quite seriously, as do many people, but that's hardly a thing to hold against him. Ravenmark, you wrote an absolutely appalling match where you have trashed about 3 years of hard work by B-Man.
If this lack of respect comes from the fact that he was in ERE and has now "taken your spot" here on TWO, then you are wholly pathetic. You set out to destroy his hard work by purposefully squashing his character and taking cheap shots at his profile (and yes, I said that on request only).
B-Man is a million miles a better writer than you, the work on his "DVD" is testament to that. I bet you haven't even read it. It's there for a reason. It's there because B-Man is proud of his work and wants people to know he's earned his sudden mega-push. Anyone is going to struggle when they first come into an E-fed because they need to learn the characters they are facing; I have just written a dreadful match against Arkham but I am a tag team champion because of my work on ERE. I was voted "Best Newcomer 2004". And everyone who voted for me to win that award is/was a hell of a lot a better writer than you.
There's no problem with your character at all. Personally I wouldn't mind Boyo having a match and losing to "Warriormark" or "MillionDollarMark" or whoever, it would be a great read, no doubts.
However, the problem lies when the quality of the match you wrote was utter shyte and then you cannot see why people, who consistently write excellent matches, like B-Man, get so upset when their hard work is crapped on.
Other than your match, and my match, a great show!
Cheers!
The B-Man
11-07-2005, 05:06 PM
I can see where B-Man is coming from; and there's a lack of respect being shown here.
Yes, he takes it all quite seriously, as do many people, but that's hardly a thing to hold against him. Ravenmark, you wrote an absolutely appalling match where you have trashed about 3 years of hard work by B-Man.
If this lack of respect comes from the fact that he was in ERE and has now "taken your spot" here on TWO, then you are wholly pathetic. You set out to destroy his hard work by purposefully squashing his character and taking cheap shots at his profile (and yes, I said that on request only).
B-Man is a million miles a better writer than you, the work on his "DVD" is testament to that. I bet you haven't even read it. It's there for a reason. It's there because B-Man is proud of his work and wants people to know he's earned his sudden mega-push. Anyone is going to struggle when they first come into an E-fed because they need to learn the characters they are facing; I have just written a dreadful match against Arkham but I am a tag team champion because of my work on ERE. I was voted "Best Newcomer 2004". And everyone who voted for me to win that award is/was a hell of a lot a better writer than you.
There's no problem with your character at all. Personally I wouldn't mind Boyo having a match and losing to "Warriormark" or "MillionDollarMark" or whoever, it would be a great read, no doubts.
However, the problem lies when the quality of the match you wrote was utter shyte and then you cannot see why people, who consistently write excellent matches, like B-Man, get so upset when their hard work is crapped on.
Other than your match, and my match, a great show!
Cheers!
Apart from you little mistake in saying 3 when it's closer to 2 thanks for that. Nice to see some support oh and Welcome back to the efed life it's good to see.
Christof
11-07-2005, 07:09 PM
Time for some feedback that some requested of me. Only just really given the matches a read through so here are my thoughts:
Brett: A good match that played on the injuries you gave BB before the match. Nice continuity with Volcom as well. Was a good read and a nice progression of yourself as a writer.
Telf: When you sent me the initial seg on msn, I cracked up. The addition of PMA to commentary was something that really made the match and kicked off some storylines nicely. The match itself worked well, Trash does have a liking for being knocked out on the outside and the match also made good use of the apparant issues within The Future.
Ravenmark
12-07-2005, 01:51 AM
To be honest with you, if B-Man is a ' miles' better writer than me, enjoy it.
And just so you know Boyo, noone gives a f*ck about your 'work' in ERE- In fact every f*cker hates you on TWO, just for the record, bar a few numpties.
The reason why you're here is because you're one of Ds's buddies.
Good luck to you all in TWO stars, because I suck apparently and will not be missed.
To be honest with you, if B-Man is a ' miles' better writer than me, enjoy it.
And just so you know Boyo, noone gives a f*ck about your 'work' in ERE- In fact every f*cker hates you on TWO, just for the record, bar a few numpties.
The reason why you're here is because you're one of Ds's buddies.
Good luck to you all in TWO stars, because I suck apparently and will not be missed.
Calm down lad; however having the guy who faked his own death because his PC crashed telling me everyone hates me is rather amusing.
And you have just flamed everyone who did, in fact, welcome me back by calling them a "numpty" and a "f****r".
Way to go, Jacques.
Cheers!
MrFill
12-07-2005, 12:55 PM
Can we let this drop now? And bringing personal issues into the efed shouldn't be happening :P
Ravenmark
12-07-2005, 12:57 PM
There was an issue with Baz and I and Boyo decided to ONCE AGAIN interject, just to make sure he becomes the centre of attention.
Well done, fella it worked.
Christof
12-07-2005, 07:12 PM
Ok folks, this issue ends here, this thread is closed and I want no further continuation of this on TWOstars or TWO as a whole.
Boyo, Ravenmark I will be contacting both of you in due course.
Thanks
Chris
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